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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: MrCranfield on Monday 03 January 11 14:02 GMT (UK)
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I am looking for any information on a George Freeman.He was born in London,England on 20/01/1911 and was admitted to Mr Fegans Homes on 15/6/1923 and was shipped to Canada on 17th April 1926 to Hornby, Ont.He returned to England on 31/10/1931 but to return on 23/01/1932.He joined the Royal Canadian Air Force and visited his sister during the war and that is the last we know of him.Did he marry, and have children, and when did he die.
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If he stayed in Ontario, the BMD registrations from the time period you are referring to are protected by provincial privacy laws.
From what I can tell, Hornby is now part of Halton Hills, Ontario. If he stayed in the area then maybe the Halton Hills Library can help find an obituary or something. Here's a link to their website:
http://www.library.hhpl.on.ca/home.asp
Jacquie
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Hi Jacquie in Canada,
I did contact Fegans here in the UK and the sent me copies of the file,I have tried the veterans dept in Canada but they need to know if he is dead or alive and have proof.
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Hi Jacquie,
Thanks for the info.I had photos of him standing at the gate of farm which I passed on but have realised that I did not keep a copy,so when I know the name of the farm I will email the library
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Old thread.
Is this a possible ?
George Freeman - 1911 London - married 1 November 1934 Toronto York Ontario. Aged 23 years. Bachelor.
Residence Lot 3 Con. 9 Trafalgar Twsp. Ontario - Toronto, York, Ontario, Canada
Father Albert Freeman Mother Emily Sayers
Spouse Ellen-Lorraine Bryant. 18 years. Parents Samuel Bryant and Ellen Booth
Sandra
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There is no George Freeman birth 1911 with mmn Sayers (nor any such births 1903-1918) - equally there is no marriage between an Albert Freeman and Emily Sayers!!
Annette
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MrCranfield have you gleaned any further information since 2011 that might help the search ?
There is a George Freeman (labourer) listed on Canada Voters List 1935 for Halton Ontario - same address as Mr E May and Mrs Elmer May - R R 2 Hornby. Halton. Ontario.
Sandra
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On the off chance they kept in touch.............George's employers:-
Did not see a George Freeman listed in this cemetery.
marriage - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKMR-C143
Find A Grave entry for Elmer Robert May (1894 - 1963) and Florence Elizabeth Giffen May (1902 - 1994)
Evergreen Cemetery Milton, Halton Regional Municipality, Ontario, Canada
PLOT Blk-079 Lot-22 2 1
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/154931052/elmer-robert-may
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q291-R3KB
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q291-R3VH
Obituary in the Canadian Champion (Milton, Ontario), 6 Jun 1963, page 6 and in the Georgetown Herald (Georgetown, Ontario), 27 Jun 1963, page 9.
Sandra
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Death Notice for Elmer.......
Sandra
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Service Files of the Second World War – War Dead, 1939-1947 do not show a George Freeman listed.
https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/second-world-war/second-world-war-dead-1939-1947/Pages/files-second-war-dead.aspx
Sandra
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When George Freeman returned to the UK, 31 October 1931 he went to 18 Acton Street Kings Cross which was the same address which his mother Mrs E Freeman lived at in 1926.
Sandra
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Checked 18 Acton Street on electoral rolls - no Freeman's at any time BUT from 1925 to 1937 there was an Emily Sayer which seems too much of a coincidence given his mothers name when a George married Canada 1934.
OP knows he had a sister who he visited in WW2 - who was the sister and i.e. their parents? I note the OP hasn't been on Rootschat since 2013!!
Annette
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Reply 4 did say old thread. Its nice to revisit these older threads, had quite a lot of success.
Can't be guaranteed but on many occasions the OP does come back !!!
There was a marriage of Emily Freeman to John Sayer - St Pancras registered 1922 - 1b 166 ??
Back to the Freeman/Sayer marriage. The 1935 Canada Voters List could very well refer to the year previously (it seems they do) and the marriage of Freeman/Sayer took place 1 st November 1934.
Ellen Lorraine Bryant/Freeman may have married a Lou Brill ??
Source :- Anc Tree.
It is possible that this couple had three children. A daughter Barbara Freeman born 1937 and passed away 2013 (no source) married Donald Walter Sommerville born 1933 passed away 1975 Thornhill, York, Ontario.
Canadian Headstone Index, 1840-2017 - Donald W. Sommerville - died 23 December 1975.
https://canadianheadstones.ca/wp/headstone-vendor/?wpda_search_column_idperson=196595
Inscription - In Loving Memory of DONALD W. SOMMERVILLE
3 SEPT. - 23 DEC. 1975
Barbara might have remarried at least once, if not three times ??
Any chance of picking up an obit for that one Run Kitty ?
Sandra
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Barbara and Donald (both deceased) had a son Robert Walter Sommerville 10 September 1958 - 27 February 2017 Minesing, Simcoe, Ontario.
Married in Toronto 10 August 1985.
Sandra
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The father of Ellen Lorraine Bryant - Samuel Richard Bryant born Bristol 1881, remarried again 29 May 1928 York Ontario to Eleanor May Clarke.
(Note Samuel was married a few times)
FIND A GRAVE
Prospect Cemetery Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152071560/samuel-r.-bryant
Eleanor M Bryant died 1965
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152071561/eleanor-mary-bryant
I wonder Run Kitty would there be a death notice/obituary for Samuel that might lead us to the Freeman's ??
Sandra
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It is possible that this couple had three children. A daughter Barbara Freeman born 1937 and passed away 2013 (no source) married Donald Walter Sommerville born 1933 passed away 1975 Thornhill, York, Ontario.
Canadian Headstone Index, 1840-2017 - Donald W. Sommerville - died 23 December 1975.
https://canadianheadstones.ca/wp/headstone-vendor/?wpda_search_column_idperson=196595
Inscription - In Loving Memory of DONALD W. SOMMERVILLE
3 SEPT. - 23 DEC. 1975
Barbara might have remarried at least once, if not three times ??
Any chance of picking up an obit for that one Run Kitty ?
Sandra
Obit for Donald Walter Sommerville in the Toronto Star 26 Dec 1975, page B6. He died in Richmond Hill on Dec 23. Husband of B Freeman. Father of E L (Mrs G MacDuffie) and Robert Walter. Son of Amelia and the late Robert Sommerville. Brother of Sylvia (Mrs P Zinkan). Interment Thornhill Cemetery.
RK
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The father of Ellen Lorraine Bryant - Samuel Richard Bryant born Bristol 1881, remarried again 29 May 1928 York Ontario to Eleanor May Clarke.
(Note Samuel was married a few times)
FIND A GRAVE
Prospect Cemetery Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152071560/samuel-r.-bryant
Eleanor M Bryant died 1965
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152071561/eleanor-mary-bryant
I wonder Run Kitty would there be a death notice/obituary for Samuel that might lead us to the Freeman's ??
Sandra
Obit for Samuel Richard Bryant in the Globe and Mail, 29 March 1963, page 55. He died on March 28. In his 81st year. Husband of Eleanor May Bowers of 1296 Indian Road, Lorne Park. Father of Mrs G Freeman (Lorraine), and Albert John. Mother of Mrs Copestick (Ada) and Mrs Gage (Queenie). Interment Prospect Cemetery.
RK
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Reply #12 mentions possible marriage between Ellen Lorraine Bryant/Freeman and Lou Brill.
On the 1953 Voter list for York-Humber, Ellen Freeman, packer, is listed at the same address on Porter Avenue as Lewis Brill, driver. No one else listed at that address.
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The father of Ellen Lorraine Bryant - Samuel Richard Bryant born Bristol 1881, remarried again 29 May 1928 York Ontario to Eleanor May Clarke.
(Note Samuel was married a few times)
FIND A GRAVE
Prospect Cemetery Toronto, Toronto Municipality, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152071560/samuel-r.-bryant
Eleanor M Bryant died 1965
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/152071561/eleanor-mary-bryant
I wonder Run Kitty would there be a death notice/obituary for Samuel that might lead us to the Freeman's ??
Sandra
Obit for Samuel Richard Bryant in the Globe and Mail, 29 March 1963, page 55. He died on March 28. In his 81st year. Husband of Eleanor May Bowers of 1296 Indian Road, Lorne Park. Father of Mrs G Freeman (Lorraine), and Albert John. Mother of Mrs Copestick (Ada) and Mrs Gage (Queenie). Interment Prospect Cemetery.
RK
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It is possible that this couple had three children. A daughter Barbara Freeman born 1937 and passed away 2013 (no source) married Donald Walter Sommerville born 1933 passed away 1975 Thornhill, York, Ontario.
Canadian Headstone Index, 1840-2017 - Donald W. Sommerville - died 23 December 1975.
https://canadianheadstones.ca/wp/headstone-vendor/?wpda_search_column_idperson=196595
Inscription - In Loving Memory of DONALD W. SOMMERVILLE
3 SEPT. - 23 DEC. 1975
Barbara might have remarried at least once, if not three times ??
Any chance of picking up an obit for that one Run Kitty ?
Sandra
Obit for Donald Walter Sommerville in the Toronto Star 26 Dec 1975, page B6. He died in Richmond Hill on Dec 23. Husband of B Freeman. Father of E L (Mrs G MacDuffie) and Robert Walter. Son of Amelia and the late Robert Sommerville. Brother of Sylvia (Mrs P Zinkan). Interment Thornhill Cemetery.
RK
Great - RK - So Ellen perhaps uses the name Lorraine and was described as Mrs G Freeman in 1963
Initials fit but discounted Canada Voters List 1940 (doesn't fit with George revisiting his sister during the war) - Mrs E L Freeman
Marital Status Widow - Residence Place Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Electoral District Spadina - the other names given wouldn't tie in either:- Morris Freeman TTC, W J Freeman, W G Freeman (shipper).
Sandra
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Reply #12 mentions possible marriage between Ellen Lorraine Bryant/Freeman and Lou Brill.
On the 1953 Voter list for York-Humber, Ellen Freeman, packer, is listed at the same address on Porter Avenue as Lewis Brill, driver. No one else listed at that address.
There is also a Canada Voters List for 1965 (so after Lorraine's father Samuel died) Lewis Brill (baker) and Mrs Ellen Brill (operator) - 440 Winona Drive. York South. Ontario.
and in 1972 Pefferlaw RR 2 - Mrs Ellen Brill (Real Estate Sales) and Lewis Brill (hydro maint) - another different occupation ??
Sandra
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So it appears that although they might have still been married, George Freeman and Ellen were no longer together by 1953. George Freeman could have moved elsewhere in Canada, back to England or just about anywhere, really. He doesn't appear to be on the voter's list for York area.
I wondered if daughter Barbara might have appeared on the voters list with him at an address to confirm his identity, but she married at age 20 or 21. I presume voting age was 21.
Do George and Ellen ever appear together on earlier voters lists? If not, it might indicate that their separation was much earlier.
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There may be a brother Albert John Bryant - born 1923 - died 6 January 1995 Toronto.
Married to Eva Henrietta Thompson - 1927 - 8 July 2009 Toronto. Ontario.
This type of headstone is the same as the one for his father Samuel and Eleanor.
FIND A GRAVE
Sanctuary Park Cemetery Etobicoke, Toronto Municipality, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156208807/albert-john-bryant
Eva Thompson Bryant
Sanctuary Park Cemetery Etobicoke, Toronto Municipality, Ontario.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/156208808/eva-bryant
Sandra
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Canada Voters List - 1968 - 29 Porterfield Road. Etobicoke. Toronto. A John Bryant (shipper) and Eva (clerk)
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01r3z/
Sandra