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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: feliscatus on Sunday 02 January 11 22:25 GMT (UK)
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Background: My husband would like to look up his great great grandparents and by using the verbal information his father gave him before he died, we have established (we think) that Charles Wilkins who married Caroline Dibden 1837 are who we are looking for. We knew that Charles came from Hampshire, and that they were buried in Purlieu or Beaulieu in Dibden. This my husband knows because his father tried to find their graves and visited the cemetry but we dont know which one he visited.
I have found Caroline Dibden marriage using FreeBMD: Vol 8 Page 309 of Oct Nov Dec 1837, and Charles Wilkins is matched to that record. Now I hope to obtain the info of the parents etc if it appears. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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1851 census for Totton Eling - all b Eling
Charles Wilkins 35 agric labourer
Caroline 33
Charles 14
George 12
Harriet 10
Ann 8
Edward 5
Henry 2 months
HO107 Piece 1668 Folio 411 Page 59
In 1861 - they were living in Millbrook and had 2 additional children Thomas aged 7 and William aged 3 RG9 Piece 684 Folio 6 Page 6
From the IGI
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true
Caroline Dibden Christening: 28 JUL 1816 Eling, Hampshire
Father: William Dibden Mother: Elizabeth Dibden
You will need to buy a copy of the 1837 marriage cert to establish the name of Charles father
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I am again standing and clapping in admiration for the magic that you and the moderators do for us. My husband is very (in a male understated way) ecstatic with this find. The names confirm with his knowledge & of the places mentioned, esp Millbrook. And, to do the search so late at night for you. Thank you.
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I had hoped that the marriage would have been on the new IGI website as fathers names are shown - no such luck!!
There is a Charles Wilkins baptism on the IGI in the right year but I'm wary as it's not specifically in Eling
I've just been checking the 1841 for Eling and have Charles and Caroline with their first 3 children but nobody else called Wilkins on the same page - rather hoped they may be near his parents if still living
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Well done. We are still buzzing with the info you first found, so the rest is a bonus. In New Zealand, the family name has continued, i.e. Charles, Edward, William & Thomas continued to be used by the great grand children of Charles. We also found that 'Dibden' has become 'Debden", so the Charles that died in 1996 in NZ was Charles Michael Debden Wilkins. We have enjoyed tracing the origins of the name to the place etc.
Post script: By the way, Barney is very hansome, we have three felines & at one point ten years ago had 5!! The older & only female is "stately" and asleep beside the computer in the sun.
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Found this on https://beta.familysearch.org/
Charles Wilkins christened 11.1.1818 Eling Hampshire - parents William & Harriet
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Spot on, Charles has clearly named one of his daughters after his mother - eureka! William and Harriet have to be the same family. I really do need to go and have a coffee, Im loosing the feeling in my legs - we are glued to this unravelling of hubbies family tree like a darn good soap opera. We have to go and get some air. Big hoorah to you & any felines you may now have. Even the dogs are now asleep from all the excitement, and the elderly female is not excited because she knew another cat lover would find the info anyway.
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Same IGI website has the following christenings in Eling with parents William & Harriet
William 2.7.1820
Harriet 16.6.1822
Patience 29.7.1827
Thomas 18.10.1829
Henry 18.8.1833
Patience is a servant in 1841 aged 13 and so is Harriet aged 20 - both in Eling
This is a submitted IGI entry
William WILKINS Spouse: Harriet OSMAN Marriage: 09 APR 1812 Eling, Hampshire
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Have not had coffee yet - but hubby has just seen latest info and said that the name 'Stephen' he has never heard as a 'family' name, but William, Thomas & Edward are very prominant names in the family.
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AAH - I hoped you hadn't seen that addition to my post with the 1841 details as I have just removed it having found this 1851 entry for Eling - all b Eling
William Wilkins 62 pauper
Harriet 62
Thomas 19 - no relationship shown but probably the Thomas christened 1829
Jane 8 grand daughter
HO107 Piece 1668 Folio 366 Page 20
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Umm, that lad Thomas is a bit baffling if his age was correct at time of 1851 census, because it would be 2 years out - going by the christening date and census date, two years have disappeared off his life. The rest checks out.
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OOH we all love a bit of scandal in our boring Family Trees ;D
Charles WILKINS
Birth, 08 January 1837
Baptised, 29 January 1837, St Marys, Eling, Hampshire
Father, Charles WILKINS
Mother, Caroline DIBDEN
Abode, Calmore and Eling Poorhouse
Fathers Occp, Labourer and Single Woman
Notes, Illegitimate
(Source FreeREG)
www.freereg.org.uk
CHARLES Wilkins, Birth 03 Dec 1817, Baptised 11 Jan 1818 to WILLIAM/HARRIET of Calmore, Occp Labourer
George born 1839 and Ann 1843 to Charles/Caroline are on their also.
+ Siblings of Charles.
No Marriages or Burials in Eling though which you can search specifically.
Trish :)
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Have you seen this DIBDEN ONS website?
http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/dibden_onename/links.html
Lots of information about DIBDENS, your family included. :)
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going there now.
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Hello, my grandmother's name was Harriet Maria Foster, the daughter of Charles Debden Wilkins and Maria Swords, born 1874. Does that tie in with your Husbands Family.
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Hello. I have just registered with Rootschat and read your message from 2016. Its been ten years since I used Feliscatus UserID and sadly my memory has faded along with the email & password I registered. I couldn't find where to contact someone and ask how to register my new email and password so I started an entirely new account with Rootschat. So I hope you sign in at some time as I can see your reference to Charles Debden and Maria Swords is my husbands Gt Grandfather.
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Hello Familymsmarple and welcome back to RootsChat.
I can help you access and update your old profile, if it OK with you I can merge your two profiles together into your old profile.
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Regards
Sarah
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Thank you Sarah, that would be marvellous thank you. Our first grandchild is to be born soon so I am back to updating and tweaking the genealogy trail so I would be very grateful for your help to merge or blend the accounts. :)
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I have now blended your accounts and sent you a new password for your old profile. You were last logged in in 2011, I can see that you have had a few new replies to your old topics since then you will be able to read them by clicking on profile, email notifications and then you will be able to see everthing after 2011 that is new.
Hope baby feliscatus arrives safely and soon ;)
Regards
Sarah