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Title: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Wozza on Friday 31 December 10 00:37 GMT (UK)
G'day from a new lister. I am looking for information on George Isted and his parents.
George was born in Dallington in November 1815. His marriage cert'. indicates that he was
a soldier at that time, as was his father James. Baptism records show Georges' parents as
James Isted & Mary ? George married Mary Morley in October 1858, her father was Thomas Morley, unable to trace her mother. John Isted & Ann Morley were witnesses to
Georges' marriage. Any help regarding military with James & George + family members
would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Wozza.
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: swebby on Friday 31 December 10 09:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Wozza,

Welcome to the Sussex board.

The Sussex Family History Group's database confirms that baptism as on 4 Jun 1815 in Dallington to James & Mary, James was a labourer.
There do not seem to be any other baptisms to the couple in Dallington.

I cannot see an obvious candidate for the marriage of James & Mary unfortunately.

Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Friday 31 December 10 09:50 GMT (UK)
Don't know whether this link will work but will try anyway!

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATLN=7&CATID=-5477973&j=1

National Archives page for James Isted born ashburnham, just down the road from Dallington in royal Marines in 1808 aged 49 so maybe not yours but worth a look?

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Friday 31 December 10 09:51 GMT (UK)
Another one

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=179-par233&cid=17-2#17-2

Mary Isted of Ashburnham wife of James serving in militia

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: swebby on Friday 31 December 10 10:13 GMT (UK)
Have had a look through the census from 1851 onwards.

In 1851 it looks as though he might be a lodger in Rotherfield, his occupation is an agricultural labourer.
In 1861 it could be George & Mary living in Bexhill with Children Thomas J and Charles Henry, again he is an agricultural labouer.
In 1871 he is in Ashburnham with his wife & Children and a Thomas Morely Father in Law, he is still an agricultural labourer.
In 1881 they are still living in Ashburnham with Thomas, again he is an agricultual labourer.

Looks as though on 22 Nov 1883 he is buried at Ashburnham.
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: swebby on Friday 31 December 10 10:19 GMT (UK)
Using the census info that Mary was born in Bexhill it leads us to

Mary Morley bap 9 Nov 1817 Bexhill to Thomas & Jane, Thomas was a labourer.
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Stovepipe on Friday 31 December 10 10:37 GMT (UK)
Wozza,

You could do worse than visit the following website.

http://www.isted.info/

The home page states that "extensive records and files" will happily be checked on your behalf if you have queries about your own Isted genealogy. An email address is given on the site.

Elsewhere it states that over 10 generations of Ashburnham, Dallington, Bexhill, Ninfield Isteds have been traced, the earliest from the 1670s. So you may be lucky.

But even if your man is not covered, the site is full of interesting background information for Isted researchers.

HTH,
Stovepipe
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: OneBigFamily on Friday 31 December 10 10:53 GMT (UK)
Hi Wozza,

In the 1871 for George, there is a John Morley born abt 1841 in Bexhill with him.

If you look for the 1841 census for Thomas Morley born in Sussex abt 1791, John Morley, aged 9 months is found with them and they are living in Bexhill.

In the 1841 Thomas Morley's wife is called Jane. (She is shown as born in Sussex and aged 45 and her age could have been rounded up or down to the nearest five years.)

There was a marriage in Wivelsfield, in Sussex, for a couple Thomas Morley and Jane Thorpe on 5 March 1811.  Cannot guarantee this is the correct marriage but is something to work on.

Penny
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: swebby on Friday 31 December 10 10:55 GMT (UK)
Looks like James & Mary were in the Workhouse at Battle in 1841 from the census records.

James Isted buried at Ashburnham 5 Nov 1844 (Age 84)
Mary Isted buried at Ashburnham 4 Jul 1843 (Age 71, Battle Union Workhouse)



Sean
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Wozza on Saturday 01 January 11 00:13 GMT (UK)
Firstly, may I say Happy New Year to you all from a very hot Sydney. Geez! So many
replies & so soon. I'm stumped for words, but for now, a mighty heartfelt thank you.

I will see what turns up from the information received. Again many thank's.

Wozza
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: janan on Thursday 20 January 11 10:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Wozza

Given Sean's find here
Looks like James & Mary were in the Workhouse at Battle in 1841 from the census records.

James Isted buried at Ashburnham 5 Nov 1844 (Age 84)
Mary Isted buried at Ashburnham 4 Jul 1843 (Age 71, Battle Union Workhouse)

Sean


I think the East Grinstead/West hoathly families on your other thread can be discounted - that's something at least  :)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=506106.msg3648058#msg3648058


Jan ;)
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Wozza on Sunday 13 February 11 06:05 GMT (UK)
G'day Janan, I'm in a bit of a pickle at the moment. It has been quite a few weeks since
our last contact concerning the American contact you gave me details for, and sadly whilst
I still have her address, I have mislaid Her name somewhere. I am stiil awaiting a reply to
the message that I sent to her ( aknowledgement of receipt of email ). From time to time I
get emails from people that I have no idea who they are ( scam type ) , and as a result I delete them straight away. One of them may have been the one I was awaiting, but I did
not recognise the name, and the subject line did not reflect my inquiry.

Would it be too much trouble to ask you to resend the name and address again please Jan ?

Regards,

Wozza.
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: janan on Sunday 13 February 11 12:21 GMT (UK)
G'day Janan, I'm in a bit of a pickle at the moment. It has been quite a few weeks since
our last contact concerning the American contact you gave me details for, and sadly whilst
I still have her address, I have mislaid Her name somewhere. I am stiil awaiting a reply to
the message that I sent to her ( aknowledgement of receipt of email ). From time to time I
get emails from people that I have no idea who they are ( scam type ) , and as a result I delete them straight away. One of them may have been the one I was awaiting, but I did
not recognise the name, and the subject line did not reflect my inquiry.

Would it be too much trouble to ask you to resend the name and address again please Jan ?

Regards,

Wozza.


Hi Wozza

I would happily do this but it wasn't me who gave you the contact. Looking back over your threads I think it might have been Jane Masri - she mentions an Ancestry tree owned by Lisa Lynn Henry.

Hope this helps
Jan ;)

Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Nanny with Rosie on Monday 04 July 11 21:10 BST (UK)
Hello

I am researching Isted's of Ashburnham I have got back to Thomas b.1806? and Charlotte (?Clark) b.1811.  I presume they are linked with the Isteds in this link but cannot find out where.

I have their children as Thomas, Ann (not in 1851 census)Henry, Caroline & James (as per 1841 census) and them plus John, Emily, Alfred, Sarah and George in the 1851 census. 

I then have Eliza and Lydia Charlotte (who is the link to my family tree through marriage to firstly James Parrish and then Edward (Edwin) Archer.

Any help you can give me to firm up the tree and possibly take it back further would be appreciated.

Nanny with Rosie
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Monday 04 July 11 22:07 BST (UK)
Hi Nanny with Rosie

Baptism for Thomas is 12 October 1806 at Ashburnham to Thomas and Philadelphia Isted.

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Monday 04 July 11 22:10 BST (UK)
He married Charlotte Clark at Ashburnham on 21 October 1831.

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Monday 04 July 11 22:15 BST (UK)
Thomas snr married Philadelphia Eastland at Ashburnham on 26 October 1803.

The James Isted mentioned in this thread was born 1760 if my sums are correct so could be Thomas snr's brother or uncle??

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Nanny with Rosie on Tuesday 05 July 11 08:08 BST (UK)
Kerryb

Thank you for that info - it now gives me the scope to move back one generation and hopefully link in the other Isteds from Ashburton. 

Looking on Google maps it was a very small village.

Nanny with Rosie

Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Tuesday 05 July 11 15:59 BST (UK)
Hi again Nanny with Rosie

I was going to list the baptisms of Thomas and Charlotte's children for you last night but I think I was getting tired, I got completely confused.  Here they are now in case you don't have them

All at Ashburnham and to Thomas and Charlotte
Thomas, 13 August 1832, labourer
Anne, 25 May 1834, labourer
Henry - haven't found yet
Caroline, 22 April 1838, labourer, abode - Ashburnham
James, 22 March 1840, labourer
John, 1 May 1843, labourer
Emily - not found yet
Alfred, 9 august 1846, abode - Burnt Barns
Sarah 15 October 1848, labourer
George, 11 August 1850, labourer

HTH

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Tuesday 05 July 11 16:02 BST (UK)
Henry, 5 June 1836, labourer
Emily, 20 April 1845, labourer

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Nanny with Rosie on Tuesday 05 July 11 16:28 BST (UK)
Kerryb

Thank you for that useful information - I read that they resided at Burnt Barns Ashburnham in both the 1841 and 1851 censuses.  However Anne was missing in the 1851 census - presumably had died but cannot trace.

There were two further children born after 1851c, one being Lydia who is my link to the family via James Parrish and Edward Archer (his son married my Aunt Margaret and lived in Speldhurst.  I think it was James' brother Percy who married my Aunt Ada (nee Henocq) and Margaret's sister.

I am also wondering if  John b.1804, Henry 1812, Thomas 1806 and Elizabeth 1805 could be siblings with others of Ashburnham - do you have any info on the others?

Once again many thanks.
NANNY WITH ROSIE
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Nanny with Rosie on Tuesday 05 July 11 18:57 BST (UK)
Hi Kerryb

Have just been putting the info you sent onto the Isted tree and found the following info which I wonder if you know about:

George b.1838 a twin to Caroline (have same ref on Freebmd) and died 1849 7/411 1st qtr. the next George was born a year later and Eliza and Lydia Charlotte b.1853 twins - Eliza d.1839 Battle 2b/29 2nd qtr.

Nanny with Rosie
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Tuesday 05 July 11 19:47 BST (UK)
Hi again

First one

Burial of Anne at Ashburnham
14 August 1852
age 11 years.  Might be worth getting hold of death certificate to find out what she died of.  A childhood disease perhaps.

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Nanny with Rosie on Tuesday 05 July 11 19:51 BST (UK)
Hi - very interesting as I had thought I might have found Anne in the 1851c. in Ashburnham as a servant age 16.  Don't have access to the full census to find out the address, but wondered if it would be at the 'big house' as I understand Ashburnham is a small village/community.

Ta
NANNY WITH ROSIE
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Tuesday 05 July 11 19:57 BST (UK)
Ashburnham is/was a small community but there is a big house were a lot of villagers worked and for the estate.  Don't know if you have come across this website before but it is very useful.  http://www.ashburnham-past.co.uk/6384.html

the only George I can find being born 1838 is to George and Eliza in Dallington and baptised there on 13 May 1838.  It seems strange that if Caroline had a twin brother he wasn't baptised with her which he should have been and I can't find a burial for him.

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Tuesday 05 July 11 19:59 BST (UK)
I've found Lydia

baptised at Ashburnham to thomas and Charlotte again abode - Burnt Barns
on 30 March 1853

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: kerryb on Tuesday 05 July 11 20:14 BST (UK)
It appears that

John Golding was baptised at Ashburnham on 12 June 1803 to John and Mary
His sister was Elizabeth baptised at Ashburnham on 3 August 1806

Thomas and Philadelphia, parents of Thomas 1806 had an Ann baptised in 1809

Henry was Henry Maynard Isted and was baptised on 9 June 1811 to Mary, he was baseborn.

I think it may be that Thomas and John were brothers.  Unfortunately though the Sussex Family History database has a gap in the baptism records for Ashburnham between 1711 and 1784 so you would need to check originals for that.

Kerry
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Nanny with Rosie on Tuesday 05 July 11 20:23 BST (UK)
You have been busy - thank you.

I cannot remember where I found the details as it is some time since I worked on this part of the tree, but I would have checked Freebmd to establish years and it is usual for twins to have the same reference. 

Thank you for the link to the village, I don't know the area at all so it will be interesting to get a feel for the area.

NANNY WITH ROSIE
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: moorey on Thursday 03 April 14 12:28 BST (UK)
Greetings - my first post ( I think) Recently found on microfisch a Thomas Isted married (or banns) to Sarah Moore of Beddingham 28/1/1801. I can't find either in any census from 1841 onwards. I'm not even sure of where Sarah fits into my family tree ( and I have quite a large tree) but since the Moores overran Beddingham from about 1750 until 1880 Sarah must belong in there somewhere. Can anyone help please?

Golly! Can't be my first posting as that is a 10 year old photo of me. I should update it but it's a lot better than my most recent one so I think I'll leave it :-)
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: Nanny with Rosie on Thursday 03 April 14 16:20 BST (UK)
Afternoon Moorey.   

I have looked onto my Isted tree and a Thomas Isted m. Philadelphia Eastland in 1803 in the village of Ashburnham in Sussex.  I do not have any Thomas Isted marrying a Sarah Moore that I can find. 

NANNY WITH ROSIE
Title: Re: Isted's of East Sussex
Post by: ladynicotine on Tuesday 08 April 14 12:03 BST (UK)
Hi Wozza

The name Isted was also a corruption of the name Eastwood (or visa versa, I'm not entirely sure!), & as the Eastwood's were a very prolific East Sussex family you may want to check any missing "Isted's" under "Eastwood".

Don't know if that helps at all, or if that just makes things worse!

Lady Nicotine