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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: Prufrock on Thursday 30 December 10 18:06 GMT (UK)
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I am searching for any relatives of of Liza (Eliza?) Free living in Croydon in the late 1800s, she was my Great Great Grandmother - does anyone know of her family?
Thank you.
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Have you found her on a census, indicating her age and Place of Birth?
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Not yet Mort29, although I do know for sure she was living in Croydon during the last qtr of the 19th C (as I have the birth certificate of her son, my GGrandfather).
Her married name was Foster.
Thanks.
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This is the only post-1871 marriage with both surnames ( and Eliza is the forename of the Free)
Marriages Dec 1876
FOSTER George Mile End 1c 1058
FREE Eliza Mile End 1c 1058
Jones Mary Ann Mile End 1c 1058
NEWELL William Mile End 1c 1058
assuming that they were the right couple within the 4 names to marry, a look at 1881 census and later may find them in Croydon - providing the needed vital stats for Eliza.
What was the son's name and when was he born?
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Hi,
I'll look up the date of the birth and get back to you.
She was married to Solomon Foster.
I'll double check details though.
Thanks.
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OK. Please do a total download of all info you have - saves going back and forward and even more important, making assumptions !
and the sons name that links to Croydon ?
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There are 3 Solomon Fosters marrying in Croydon after 1850 up to late 1890s .... this must be yours ... I started the last search at 1871 for some reason ...
Marriages Mar 1863
FOSTER Solomon Croydon 2a 199
FREE Eliza Croydon 2a 199
THORNTON Charles Croydon 2a 199
THORNTON Isabella Croydon 2a 199
this is them in 1871 census of Croydon - RG10; Piece: 844; Folio: 69; Page: 55 - 4, Gravel Pit Cottages
Soloman Foster 27 Head of Household born Essex Hempstead (or Stanstead?): a Porter
Eliza Foster 26 Wife born Cambs, Horseheath
Anna Foster 8 dau born Essex, Walthamstow
Charles Foster 6 son born Croydon
Eliza Foster 4 dau ditto
Solomon Foster 2 son ditto
Baby Foster 6 Days son ditto
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Thanks Mort29,
what would you suggest I do next to trace back on Free?
Oh, and what I do not know - are there are any other children; apart from my GGrandfather?
Regards.
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now we have her PoB (see addition to previous post), we may find her easily in Cambs - otherwise you need to get that Marriage Certificate to see if she names a Father....
LOL, you still havent named your GGrandfather!
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OK, the 1861 seems to match her PoB, allowing for a small mistran both by the Enumerator and the modern transcription.
1861 census of Dagenham, Essex RG9; Piece: 1069; Folio: 50; Page: 17
Charles Free 34 Head of Household born Cambs 'Harheath': an Ag Lab
Mary Ann Free 30 Wife Cambs, West?michter?
Eliza Free 16 dau Cambs, 'Horheath'
Agnes Free 14 dau ditto
Judith Holdle Free 4 dau ditto
George W Free 7 son Essex, Barking
Thomas Alfred Free 11Mo son Essex, Dagenham
Isaac Foster 26 Lodger born Essex, Hempstead
Look closely at the Foster Lodger - his PoB matches Solomon's in 1871 ! Mabe a relation?
Also, I'd wager this is a 2nd marriage for Charles given Mary Ann's age and the kids ages ...
In 1851 census of Horseheath, Cambridgeshire HO107; Piece: 1761; Folio: 353; Page: 22 - Eliza is a Visitor in the Household of John Free - I'm guessing that he is her Uncle ....
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Back to the Fosters...... in 1881 - RG11; Piece: 816; Folio: 101; Page: 59 Croydon .... Eliza isnt there. This is the Family as shown on the Enumerators Page at 44, Warren Road.
Soloman Foster 37 Head of Household born Essex, Hempstead: a Coal Porter
Charles Foster 15 son born Croydon: a Carman
Soloman Foster 11 son ditto
William Foster 8 son ditto
Walter Foster 6 son ditto
Alfred Foster 3 son ditto
Sarah Foster 17 dau born Essex, Walthamstow
Eliza Foster 13 dau born Croydon
Florance Foster 9 dau ditto
Sarah Chote 27 NIECE born Sussex, Hampstead??
Age closely matches ...
Deaths Mar 1880
FOSTER Eliza 36 Croydon 2a 168
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Deaths Sep 1899
Foster Solomon age 56 Croydon 2a 147
leaving this as a memory jogger, as I havent been able to see him yet in the 1891 census.
Added: Think this is him - spelled Solimm or similar - Lodging in Ely Road, Croydon - RG12; Piece: 593; Folio 111; Page 55 'Licenced Lodging House'
age is shown 'NK', but amended to 35 !: PoB is 'NK' - occupation is General Labourer .... strangely shown as 'Married'
We could try and trace the younger kids if you like ?
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Isaac Foster seen with the Free family in 1861, was indeed Solomon's brother ..
1851 census of Hempstead, Essex HO107; Piece: 1786; Folio: 629; Page: 29
Charles Faister (sic) 48 WIDOWER Head of Household: Ag Lab
Ann Faister 18 dau
Isaac Faister 15 son
Eliza Faister 13 dau
Harriet Faister 11 dau
Soloman Faister 7 son
all state born Hempstead (Saffron Walden Reg District)
In 1861 RG9; Piece: 1069; Folio: 50; Page: 17 - Solomon is Lodging in Dagenham - virtually next door to the Free family and his brother Isaac.
Jumping back to the 1841 census HO107; Piece 329; Book: 8; Civil Parish: Hempstead; County: Essex; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: 17; Page: 28 we see Isaac & Solomon's mother and siblings.
Charls Foister (sic) 35 Ag Lab
Mary Foister 30
William Foister 15
Daniel Foister 15
Stephen Foister 13
Elizabeth Foister 10
Ann Foister 8
Isaac Foister 5
Eliza Foister 2
all state 'Born in County'
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Thank you again,
it appears there is a change in the spelling of the name, or might this be an enumerator's error?
Regards.
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Deaths Sep 1899
Foster Solomon age 56 Croydon 2a 147
leaving this as a memory jogger, as I havent been able to see him yet in the 1891 census.
Added: Think this is him - spelled Solimm or similar - Lodging in Ely Road, Croydon - RG12; Piece: 593; Folio 111; Page 55 'Licenced Lodging House'
age is shown 'NK', but amended to 35 !: PoB is 'NK' - occupation is General Labourer .... strangely shown as 'Married'
We could try and trace the younger kids if you like ?
Ely Road is interesting, and the younger kids would be too?
Happy New Year Mort29, and thanx.
Prufrock.