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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: beresford on Thursday 14 April 05 13:09 BST (UK)
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need help finding info on michael gormley who married mary ann o'boyle in 1906 in belfast
michaels fathers was called patrick
mary ann's was called edward
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Hi don't know if this is his father, from my 1896 Belfast Street Directory.
Patrick Gormley Inspector with G,N,R Railways 18 Grosvenor Place thats the only Patrick in the Directory it could be him ?
Anthony
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hi anthony
i do have the marriage certificate for michael and mary ann which states that michael was a glazier and they lived at tasmania st his father had died by the time they were married in 1906 and he is down as an ex policeman.
mary ann was a millworker lived at mary st, father was edward a labourer and still alive.
my interest in these people is that mary ann was my grandmother and that my mother was born 1905 and raised by her grandparents and i have no info on mary ann at all,
i do have two other address for the family, one that mary ann was living at lady st, this was at the time of my mothers birth, and carrickhill place for the main family from what i can tell they were there till the 1940's.
thanks for your reply
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Hi
Do you know which glazing company Micheal worked for in Belfast........................ ;)
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hi stevenson
no sorry i don't, the only info i have been able to find on the gormley's is from the 1901 census for the address in tasmania st
it states
mary ann gormley housewife age 50 head of family
patrick vandriver age 23 son
michael glazier age 17 son
sarah cloth presser age 20 daugther
mary school age 15 daugther
michael and mary ann o'boyle were married at st peters belfast in 1906
it is possable that there was another sister called catherin who would have been about 27yrs old in 1901 and possable married.
any help
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Hi. Looking at the info you posted I think that the Patrick i sent you could be the one.
Grosvenor Place is 50 yards from Lady St and Mary St is about 500 yards away from Grosvenor Place.
St Peter's Church is about 800 yards away as well, what do you think about that.
I have a James Gormley, Barman 20 Tasmania St 1896.
1949 Directory 9 Carrick Hill Place Jane O'Boyle my Mother was born in Carrick Hill Place 1917 to 1933.
Hope these are off some help to you.
Anthony
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hi anthony
i guess it is poss that he might be, but i don't know when he died yet.
as for the james gormley, the address is right it was no. 20 they lived in but there is no james on the census for 1901, he could have married by then and moved so there is a good chance that he is another brother.
as for carrickhill place my mother lived there with her grandparents and their family, the jane o'boyle you listed was my mothers aunt, it is poss that your mother might have known the family, my mother would have been 11yr old when your mother was born, but by 1933 she was living in sydney st west by my fathers family.
the rest of the o'boyle clan that lived at 9 crrickhill place were
mary ann (my gran)
john died in 1965
lucinda married frances coogan
clara ( i think died as a child)
agnes teresa married melville matthews
catherin married daniel mcneill ( i think he lived at no.9 until about 1952)
jane ( you listed never married )
edward married mary agnes conns
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Hi. Could this be your Edward Gormley Engineer 33 Mulhouse St 1962.
Francie Coogan Painter 58 Kimberley St 1962.
Daniel McNeill Lecturer 2 Cairnburn Park.
Anthony
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hi
sorry there was no edward gormley it was edward o'boyle
i have no idea what coogan or mcneill did for a living, i will have to look the other address i have for the rest of the clan i do know that one of them was baker st.
you said your mom came from carrickhill place what No. has she got a large family
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Hi Mrs Lucy Coogan 59 Baker St, don't know the No, were my Mum lived.
Anthony
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hi
lucy was my moms aunt, i have been told another aunt lived " over the road" and moved to canada or the states but not sure who or when.
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Hi Beresford,
I'd a look for glaziers in the 1907 Belfast and Ulster Directory on the Lennon Wylie website. It only appears to go to L at the moment.
James Adams, glass & oil merchant, 11, North Street. Residence: 71 Wellesley Avenue
W. S. Anderson & Co., glaziers, glass, paint, oil, & colour merchants, 64 to 66, Cromac Street
Campbell Bros., colour merchants, glass bevellers, silverers and stained glass artists, 19, 21, 23 Franklin St.
W. F. Clokey & Co., Embossing and Leaded Light Manufacturers,
Glass, Paint, Oil, and Colour Merchants and Glaziers, 7, 9, 11 King Street;
R. Corr & Co., glass, paint, colour merchants, 26, 28 Corporation Street. Riesidence: 24 Cyprus Gardens
John Frackleton & Son, glass, paint, oil & colour merchants & glaziers, 42 Church Lane
I'm not sure if PRONI have records such as pay books for these businesses but it would do no harm to ask.
Christopher
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hello
Lucinda Boyle is my great grandmother who married Francis Coogan 1908.
They mainly lived in 59 Baker Street.
Lucinda's parents were Edward Boyle and Agnes Walls.
They lived in 9 Carrickhill Place until Edwards death in 1932
I hope this helps...im intrigued about your grandmother mary ann...would she be Lucinda niece since born in 1917-1933.
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Mary Ann's marriage to Michael Gormley 1906
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1906/10132/5686578.pdf
And likely family in 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Falls/Cyprus_Street/951074/
Mary Ann's birth 1883 Mother Agnes Wall
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1883/02752/2011075.pdf
Lucinda 1886
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1886/02617/1966053.pdf
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hi Sinann --- thanks for the links -- I do have all that info -- but thanks for looking
Hi Geraldine------ hello Cousin ----- Lucy Coogan (ne Boyle ) was my Grandmothers Sister
my Grandmother was Mary Ann Boyle born 1883 and my Mother was Clara Boyle born 1905 ---I do have lots of info on that side of the family ---I will try and PM you
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That would be great...
I have further info on Edward Boyle and Agnes Walls
Edward Boyle married Agnes Walls in St. Patrick's Church on 17th April 1881.
Edward Boyle was born and baptized in St. Patrick's Church on 20th August 1860.
His parents were John Boyle and Mary/Marian Mclarnnon and they were also married in St. Patrick's Church on 30th October 1841. They lived in Carrick Hill.
Edward Boyle died 14th July 1932 with residence at 9 Carrickhill Place. The death was registered by L Coogan 59 Baker Street.
Agnes Walls was born 18th September 1858 in St. Patrick's Church. Her parents were James Walls and Mary Ann Smith. They had lived in Lancashire Street.
James Walls and Mary Ann Smith were also married in St. Patrick's Church on 17th August 1841.
In relation to their death...James Walls died on 21st December 1872 aged 54 and Mary Ann died on 21st December 1897 aged 74.
There is graveyard inscriptions in Miltown Cemetery from possibly Agnes brother Patrick on this death but there is info of 3 children who died in infancy and son called Samuel who died in 1870 aged 18.
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Geraldine will need 2 or 3 post before she can send or receive PMs
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Thanks for that info Sinann about the PM's
Geraldine -- you may have to post again to be able to see my PM ---
I do have this info -- plus more on Edward and Agnes siblings
have sent you a PM with my email in it
look forward to chatting
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Hi
Have you got any background info on Francis Coogan?
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I think I have a little bit ----will check---
can you see my PM now