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Title: Watkiss family history
Post by: pergand on Wednesday 22 December 10 17:17 GMT (UK)
Can any supply me with information regarding,
George Watkiss 1880
John Watkiss 1881
Geoff F Watkiss 1881
Richard Watkiss 1884
All of Wolverhampton,I can trace the Watkiss to 1485 but the recent families of these people I have alittle problem with.

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Title: Re: WATKISS FAMILY HISTORY
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 December 10 17:30 GMT (UK)
Hi

Are they all from the same family?  If not - who were their respective parents?  George should be on the 1881 census which is free at

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
Title: Re: WATKISS FAMILY HISTORY
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 December 10 17:37 GMT (UK)
Freebmd has no birth for a Geoff (Geoffrey/Jeffrey) Watkiss in Staffs between 1880-1882

There is no 1891 for a Richard b Wolverhampton but there is one b Bloxwich

We really need parents names to make sure we match the right family
Title: Re: WATKISS FAMILY HISTORY
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 December 10 18:21 GMT (UK)
For continuity purposes

Info via pm
Parents were William Watkiss and Ann Maria Allport

My reply via pm
There is no Watkiss/Allport marriage on freebmd

The only George Watkiss b 1880 on the 1881/91 census with a father William was b Armitage Staffs and his mother was Eliza

The 1891 has a George Watkiss b 1881 Hanley but father was James

Freebmd has a William Watkiss marriage in 1883 and one of the possible spouses was Ann Maria Gates but that would let out any births before 1883

Title: Re: WATKISS FAMILY HISTORY
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 22 December 10 18:53 GMT (UK)
I think we're looking at this family from the 1901 census:

RG13/2675/5/1 - 51 Gt Brickkiln St, Wolverhampton
William WATKISS - Head - 48  - Railway Labourer
Ann M WATKISS - Wife - 48
Geo. F WATKISS - Son - 20 - Brewer's Labourer
Rd. Hy. WATKISS - Son - 16 - Tin Plate Worker  (second abbreviated name hard to read)
Wm. WATKISS - Son - 14 - Errand Boy Electric Plate Works
(All born Wolverhampton.)

Title: Re: WATKISS FAMILY HISTORY
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 December 10 19:03 GMT (UK)
A wonderful 1891 transcription - WACKER - but no William - all b Wolverhampton

In fairness to the transcriber - the ink on the surname is badly smudged

Anne Marie Watkiss 37 Head
John Will   13
George 10
Richard  7
William 4
RG12 Piece 2228 Folio 71 Page 13

I don't think Geoff F exists - probably George F
 
 
Title: Re: WATKISS FAMILY HISTORY
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Wednesday 22 December 10 19:10 GMT (UK)
Red box as I was about to post - this is how I read the 1891 entry, which is VERY smudgy!

1891
RG12/2228/71/13 - 40 Gt Brickkiln St, Wolverhampton
Ann Maria [INK BLOT] - Head - M - 37 - Warehousewoman
John Will (?)TATE - Son - 13 - Warehouse Boy
George (?)TATE - Son - 10
Richard WATKIS - Son - 7
William WATKIS - Son - 4
(All born Wolverhampton.)

I suppose the older boys' surname might be GATES (which fits the marriage Carole found), although on the image it looks more like TATE/LATE/SATE.

(Going out now, but I'll catch up with this thread later - I have an indirect connection to Watkiss in Wolverhampton, but I'm not sure whether it's the same family!)
Title: Re: WATKISS FAMILY HISTORY
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 22 December 10 19:19 GMT (UK)
Per freebmd

Marriages June qtr 1877 
 
Annie Maria Allport   Wolverhampton  6b 766   
John Brant Gates
Title: Re: Watkiss family history
Post by: Staff lass on Sunday 03 July 11 16:29 BST (UK)
Richard Henry Watkiss born in 1884 Wolverhampton was my grandfather, I have information about his family history if you are interested.
Title: Re: Watkiss family history
Post by: pergand on Wednesday 13 July 11 19:02 BST (UK)
Thank's for your reply,Richard Watkiss I am looking for was born 1884 to William Watkiss and Anne Marie Allport , if this Richard is the one I am looking for, then you and I are directly related, if this is the case,then I can inform you I can take your family tree back to 1400s.You will find out that your family tree is steeped in history.
Look forward to your reply.
Mike Watkiss.
Title: Re: Watkiss family history
Post by: Staff lass on Thursday 14 July 11 07:58 BST (UK)
Yes this definitely is my family his father was also Richard and mother Mary Wright. Looking forward to hearing from you.