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Title: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: chalkley73 on Wednesday 22 December 10 16:15 GMT (UK)

 ;D

I am tracing a friends family the Kluths (later changed to Neville at outbreak of WWI)

What i know is that Christian Kluth was born 1860 in Germany and married Martha Barker in 1884 in Barking.I am trying to trace when he arrived in the UK so see if i can see where he came from

Any help would be appreciated

Thanks

Kevin

Title: Re: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: JustinL on Thursday 23 December 10 08:25 GMT (UK)

Kevin,

Was Christian ever recorded in a British census as a naturalised British subject?

Justin

Title: Re: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: chalkley73 on Thursday 23 December 10 08:51 GMT (UK)

On the 1901 census he is mis spelt as Christian Kurth and under where born is shown as ENGLISH SUBJECT,GERMANY

Not found him on 1891 or 1911 census though found wife on 1911

regards

Kevin

Title: Re: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: Tati on Thursday 23 December 10 09:14 GMT (UK)

Hi both  :)

1891 merely says 'Germany'.

(I found it yesterday - I'll add the reference as soon as I remember how I got there! :P)

Added: Here they are, possibly indexed as 'Flath': RG12/514 84 42

Title: Re: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: chalkley73 on Thursday 23 December 10 11:22 GMT (UK)

Thanks thats them as the 3 children match

Title: Re: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: chalkley73 on Tuesday 04 January 11 15:36 GMT (UK)

Hi Justin,

Does the comment "English Subject" help with your question?

regards

Kevin

Title: Re: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: jorose on Tuesday 04 January 11 17:09 GMT (UK)

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/ has a couple of naturalisation files for Kluths but nothing that would appear to be Christian.

I see in freebmd his name is indexed as "Clouth" (and she is listed as Martha Jane Baker, not Barker), at the marriage.  If you have this certificate, the witness names might help locate him on the 1881 if he was there. You could also look to see if there's a naturalisation record under the name of his father.

Naturalisation status on censuses is notoriously inaccurate. Just "British Subject" etc without "Naturalised" could mean he was born overseas but his father was a British Subject, or that he was naturalised, or that the census was wrong. Many people didn't bother going through the process.

Title: Re: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: chalkley73 on Wednesday 05 January 11 15:53 GMT (UK)

Thanks ,i hadnt seen that.

Thats the 3rd different spelling of his surname....happy days.

Will try and get them to order the certificate

Title: Re: GERMANY: Surname Kluth
Post by: JustinL on Wednesday 05 January 11 16:42 GMT (UK)

Looks like I forgot to press the 'post' button after writing a response yesterday.

Just to echo Jorose's comment on naturalisation, CK's father may have already become naturalised.

It would probably be worthwhile investigating the origins of the other Kluth families.

Justin