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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: lesann on Thursday 03 June 04 14:55 BST (UK)
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Hi everyone
I have HUTSON ancestors from Aylesford & East Peckham areas, they were bargemen. Anyone with a possible connection please get in touch.
Thanks Lesley
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Hi Lesley
Believe we may already have touched base. I am tracing the Hutson family tree - sounds like the same line. I am tracing in particular Charles Hutson and brother William and then William's son Ralph William who had a brother called Raglan. Any connection?
Dawn
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Hi Dawn
Thanks for getting in touch. Can you give me some dates of your Hutsons - I'm sure they're all connected from down that way but there's so many of them I'm finding it difficult to put them all in the right boxes!!
Look forward to hearing from you
Regards
Lesley
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Hi
I am having trouble with putting them in boxes too. My link is my husband's grandfather Thomas Hutson whose father was Ralph William (Ralph came from Kent). Ralph's dad was William Francis Hutson who married Ann Eliza Steel (both of these were born in Kent). William's dad was John and I believed John married Sarah Rose. William had an older brother Charles and a sister called Jane. Jane had a son in 1850 called John but I think Jane was unmarried. Both Charles and William were bargemen. The problem I have is that there is also a George Hutson and a John Hutson that have a dad called John Hutson but a mum called Mary - George and John were servants so I believe that they may have been cousins or something. I have found Charles' birth, Jane's birth and the marriage of John/Sarah on the IGI and also a marriage for John/Mary on the IGI - but until I find William's birth - trouble with placing everyone - can you help?
sorry if I have confused you. by the way everyone came from Wateringbury/Maidstone area.
Dawn
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Hi Dawn
Having a quick look, your lot aren't in my tree but I'll get out my notes and see what I can come up with - two heads are always better than one.
Speak with you soon
Lesley
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Dawn
Have you got the 1871 census image for William/Ann & family incl sons Ralph & Raglan? If you haven't got it and want a copy let me know with your email address and I'll sent it to you. Any of the census you haven't got let me know.
Lesley
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Hi
Have found Charles and William on a 1861 census where Charles is a master bargeman and William his mate, vessel Margaret (1) which is good. How far have you gone back - I really need William's birth but will need to visit Maidstone for that - do you know if parish records have been published anywhere?
Dawn
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Hi
My first thought was that was your William, but sorry to say it's not.
The Charles who is master is my Charles in my tree, this William is 17yrs born Nettlested and is the son of Thomas & Mary Hutson who are all in Nettlested in 1851.
In the 1861 your William is stated as 29yrs and living at home with wife AE Hutson, children PE, RW (which is Ralph) MC - how strange they only gave their initials.
In 1851 William is 18yrs and living at 17 Bow Road, Wateringbury with his widowed mother Sarah 56yrs, sister Jane (& her son John) and younger brother George.
I don't know of any records that have been published.
Lesley
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Who is your Charles' parents, my William was apprenticed to Alfred Keep - i need to find William's birth and also to find him in the 1841 census when I believe his mother was alive, i thought I had find them but it shows an older brother Charles and older brother John as well as Jane and George. Confused, this is driving me mad?
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Dawn, I've found them !! They're on the 1841 census under the name of WATSON in Nettlestead.
John 40yrs is a Coal Merchant, Sarah 40yrs, Charles & Jane both 15yrs, John 12yrs William 8yrs George 5yrs
There are two poss deaths for John Sep Qtr 1845 Maidstone reg district 5 209 or Jun Qtr 1848 Malling reg 5 265.
By the way Jane's baby (was he John Saxby?) if so - he died Dec Qtr 1851 Malling reg 5 259
Lesley
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Dawn
Sorry forgot to say my interest stems from William (b 1797) & Mary Ann Hutson from East Peckham (their son was Charles of the Margret) Williams parents were William & Fanny. The children of William & Fanny I only have the aforementioned William (1797) & his sister Ann (1796) there could well be others such as your John who married Sarah as Nettlested's just up the road from East Peckham - will keep looking
Lesley
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Thanks so much, yes the baby was John Saxby which makes me think that the father's name might have been Saxby. I think John was born around 1796 and Sarah the same, found a wedding in 1817 in Maidstone which I think is them as the birth's of the babies were registed under Maidstone too, apart from William who I can't find. Will keep looking - it is nice to have found someone else though because they must link somewhere i suppose.
Dawn
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Hello, I live in King's Cottages in Nettlestead, and I have just dug up from my garden some fragments of an earthenware beer flagon with the inscription -*CRUTTE* KENT ARMS * WATERINGBURY* Thete are bits missing and the begining and end are missing from the first word and 'wateringbury' I have found a reference to the pub and believe it was run by Charles Hutson. Is this of any interest to you? Can you tell me where the pub was?
All the best
Chris
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Hi Chris
Welcome to Rootschat
There is a little bit about the "Kent Arms" here http://wateringbury.blogspot.com/2009/01/pubs.html
I wonder if the inn keeper was CRUTTENDEN?
Casalguidi :)
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'CRUTTE' is part of the name of the contents, it may be some sort of cider, I have a machine for crushing apples called a 'Scrutter' ... Just a theory. I have a document which implies that Charles Hutson was the landlord of the kent arms. Thanks for the link, the railway pub is about 300 yards from my house where I found the fragments.
Does anybody have any evidence that would place Charles Hutson as the landlord pre-1878?
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Publicans of the King's Head, Wateringbury (taken from directories)
1839 Edward FREEMAN
1847 Richard HARRIS
1899 George WHITMORE
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'CRUTTE' is part of the name of the contents
Oh I see - I thought CRUTTENDEN would have been a bit off centre but just thinking it was a name found in the area ;D
Casalguidi :)
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Would you mind having a look in directories for the 'Kent Arms'
which is the pub named on the pottery and I believe Charles Hutson ran?
Thanks
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Just noticed your post. Is it possible that the Charles Hutson barge [built 1889 at Conyer kent] is connected to your ancestor? If so I have some pictures of it that I can send to you. The Charles Hutson was the last barge built by my ancestor John Bird.
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Hi. Just wondering if you have a Joan Elizabeth Hutson in your family tree, she had two sons we know about angume latif Hutson 1968 and ivor Thomas 1
preece 1972 both born in rochdale England :D
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Another name that may help - Edgar Hutson, probably born in Sittingbourne around 1930. Attended Sittingbourne Council School and spent his life working as a mechanic in the Motor Trade, in Sittingbourne, at Scoones Garage. I believe he had a daughter but, unfortunately I cannot remember her name.
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Hi Everyone
Just logged back in after a long time. Charles Hutson is definitely my ancestor, he is the older brother of William Francis Hutson. Charles was the oldest son of John Hutson who married Sarah Rose. Charles had a sister named Jane and also brothers John and George. Charles Hutson had a barge and also ran a pub, he was the rich part of the family so I joke as we descend from William Hutson. Very fascinating to see the fragments of pottery from the Kent Arms and also to hear of the barge, would love to see a photo.
many thanks
Dawn
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Re replies #18 & 20 - Edgar Hutson
Conyer is only 3/4 miles from Sittingbourne.
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Hi
After searching out of the box, think I may have found something - thank you to everyone who has replied on the Hutson search over the years. I have now found my John Hutson married a Sarah Rose in 1817, they had children Charles, Jane, William, John and George. John was a coal merchant in the 1841 census and after he died Charles (his son) is shown as a coal merchant in a later census, Charles was also the victualler in a later census too - he married Louise Skinner.
Out of the box, I found a William Hutson also a coal merchant in 1841 in East Peckham living with his wife Fanny. Most of my Hutson family descended from East Peckham and then moved to Nettlestead. I have now found a William Hutson who married Frances (Fanny) Scoone in East Peckham - they had children William, Ann and John - could this be my John and also the coal merchant connection - coincidence - I am still proving this John/William connection. I have proved back to John and Sarah with certificates etc. Need to make another visit to the Maidstone achives I think as I need to look at the parish records for St Michaels of East Peckham.
Sorry if I have rambled on but quite excited as this brickwall as existed for a long time.
dawn
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Re Hutson
I have only just started my family tree
I believe Raglan Charles Hutson is my Great Grandfather - His daughter Florence Gertrude Huston (Married my Grandfather Ronald Francis Ells) was my Grandmother
My mother Jacqueline Ann Henton (nee Ells) who is 85, has been chatting to me about Raglan Charles Hutson and she thinks she remembers he ran a Barge company (?) and bought a Barge for each of his sons Raglan Charles Hutson (J), Sidney George Hutson and Robert Hector Hutson.
Has anyone any information that could prove this information ?
Many thanks :)
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Hi Jo
Hutson is my husband's family. Raglan Charles was the son of William Francis Hutson and Ann Eliza Steel - William Francis was my husband's GGGF - we are related. William Francis and his brother Charles owned barges and were master of the barges and were waterman having served their apprenticeships so yes it is very likely that Raglan owned a barge too. The father of William Francis was John Hutson who married Sarah Rose - John was a coal merchant again on the barges. Hope this helps would love to talk to you more. Dawn Hutson
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Hi Dawn,
How exciting!!
William Francis is also my GGGF.
My line so far goes as follows:
John Hutson and Sarah Mantell Rose
William Francis Hutson and Ann Eliza Steel
Raglan Charles Hutson and Augusta Thatcher
Ronald Francis Ells and Florence Gertrude Hutson
David Sidney Henton and Jacqueline Ann Ells
Martin David Keill and Joanna Zena Henton
Lee William Symons and Jessica Louise Keill
Lucas William Symons
Riley Martin Symons
I am Joanna :)
Thank you for the information, it has confirmed things I have found out so far.
Also on forum.woodenboat.com
Its says In 1889 John Birds Boat Yard, Conyer Creek, built a barge called Charles Hutson of Rochester, for the Hutson Barge Family.
Kind regards
Jo
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Dawn,
Also the Pub Charles Hutson and Louisa Hutson owned was called The Kent Arms in Nettlestead - He owned it till he died on 6th March 1890 and in the 1891 census Louisa Huston and her children Sarah A Hutson, Jane Hutson and Robert H Hutson still lived there
Jo
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Hi!
My name is Hannah Hutson, and I'm from Oregon in the US. I'm looking into my family ancestry and came across this thread. We have recorded George Hutson as the earliest Hutson in our family tree. I think I may fit in as my GGG Grandfather is George E. Hutson. After reading this thread, I believe he is a son of John Hutson. He was born in on 05 May 1843 in Bredgar, Kent, England. He married Frances J. Jordan and had 4 children, Edith, Stanley, Wallace, and Thomas. Thomas is my GG Grandfather, he was born in 1883 in Kent and he came to San Francisco, CA where he died in 1950. He married Grace Evans and had my grandpa Thomas Hutson Jr, he moved to Oregon upon his father's death with his mother where our family has resided ever since.
I'm hoping to find more information on my Hutson relatives, who they are, what they did for work, and if I have an living Hutson relatives in England today. Let me know if any of these names ring a bell.
Best,
Hannah Hutson