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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: nsledden on Tuesday 21 December 10 23:15 GMT (UK)
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hi all , im knew to the forum hoping to trace my ancestory any info regarding 'sledden' family would be much appreciated mainly from around oswaldtwistle and church area cheers in advance n.sledden
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Hi
Can we have some christian names and birthyears please - there are 16 entries for that surname on the 1901 for Lancashire
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hi thanks for the reply, william sledden born 1907 , frederick sledden born 1860 and nicholas sledden born roughly 1810-20s
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Unfortunately Lancashire isn't in my research area, but I see from the "Hugh Wallis" site that in Oswaldtwistle there are only 20 years of Wesleyan church records. Thus I presume your family walked to Church village where I see the earliest Sleddin/Seddin baptism and marriages were in the mid 1700's
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyLancashire_%28A-K%29.htm#C
Good luck
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So, you have traced them on the census then? Frederick and wife Margaret born Liverpool?
Mo
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Was William b 1907 the son of Frederick b 1860?
If not - you will have to use the 1911 census to obtain his parents details
We really need you to tell us what info you already have (ie) census /BMD etc so we don't waste time duplicating it
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yes william sledden 1907 was my grandfather and frederick sledden 1860 was his father and i think that he had three more sons they were i think walter, richard,frederick and my grandfather was the fourth son this is about as far as ive got regards
nathaniel sledden.
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1901 census for Oswaldtwistle - children b Oswaldtwistle
Frederick Sledden 39 general carter b Liverpool
Margaret 37 b Liverpool
Frederick 5
Richard 3
James 3 Months
RG13 Piece 3918 Folio 13 Page 17
The 1881 census is free to search at
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
There is a Frederick Sledden shown but his birthplace is Accrington
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This is the only possible marriage but it was somewhat "after the event"
Marriages September qtr 1902
Margaret Hargreaves Blackburn 8e 892
Frederick Sledden
The marriage is on www.lancashirebmd.org.uk but cannot be looked up in parish records as it is Register Office or Registrar Attended
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1901 census for Oswaldtwistle - children b Oswaldtwistle
Frederick Sledden 39 general carter b Liverpool
Margaret 37 b Liverpool
Frederick 5
Richard 3
James 3 Months
RG13 Piece 3918 Folio 13 Page 17
The 1881 census is free to search at
cheers for that ,its very intersting and a little confusing , would i be correct in thinking that james 3months was son of frederick sledden because thats knew to me cheers again ,nathaniel sledden
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
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See www.lancashirebmd.org.uk (as suggested on the beginners thread)
James Sledden registered in the sub district of Oswaldtwistle 1900 mothers maiden name Jones or the alternative name of Hargreaves with the same reference number. It is looking very likely that Frederick and Margaret didn`t actually marry until 1902 as suggested by Carole :o
Mo
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yes william sledden 1907 was my grandfather and frederick sledden 1860 was his father and i think that he had three more sons they were i think walter, richard,frederick and my grandfather was the fourth son this is about as far as ive got regards
nathaniel sledden.
Is this Walter?
Births Dec 1897
Sledden Walter - Blackburn 8e 423
Family search beta has the following:
Walter Sleddin[sic] born 1897 - christened 1897 at St Paul, Oswaldtwistle, Lancs
Parents Frederick Sleddin[sic] and Margaret
Source film number: 1470861
Deaths Dec 1897
Sledden Walter - Aged 0 - Blackburn 8e 301
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Mother's maiden name for Walter Sledden (in my last post) is Jones on LancashireBMD
Births Jun 1907
SLEDDEN William - Blackburn 8e 445
William Sledden's Mother's maiden name is given as Hargreaves/Jones on LancashireBMD:
Registers at Preston both have same reference number: OS/73/96
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The closest birth registration I can see for Richard is:
Births Dec 1898
SLADEN Richard - Blackburn 8e 415
Mother's Maiden name given as Jones on LancashireBMD
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would i be correct in thinking that james 3months was son of frederick sledden
All children shown on the 1901 entry are shown as the children of Frederick & Margaret
Have you viewed the family on the 1911 census?
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This appears to be the birth registration for Frederick registered as Sledding
Births Jun 1896
Sledding Frederick - Blackburn 8e 455
Mother's Maiden name given as Jones on LancashireBMD
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All born in the sub district of Oswaldtwistle with the mothers maiden name shown as Jones
Frederick Sledding 1896
Walter Sledden, 1897
Richard Sladen, 1898
James Sledden, 1900
Nicholas Sledden, 1902
William Sledden 1907
Rachel Sleddon,1909
Mo
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Another possible child for Frederick and Margaret:
Births Dec 1902
SLEDDEN Nicholas - Blackburn 8e 399
(Mother's Maiden name given as Jones on LancashireBMD)
Deaths Mar 1904 - (Possible death registration)
Sleddin Nicholas - aged 1 - Blackburn 8e 338
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There is a marriage of a Margretta Jones aged 23 to William Hargreaves age 24 at Christ Church, Accrington in 1887 which may be worth pursuing. Her father Richard Jones and his was Thomas.
Mo
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For the record
1881 RG11/4145/82/17
6 Lower Fold Accrington
Sarah Sledden 55 Widow
Nicholas 21 Lab. in iron works
Frederick 19 lab. in iron works
Jonathon 14 lab. in print works
All born Accrington
The address and place of birth match up with what Frederick and Margaret give in a later census. Margaret was born Liverpool.
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1871 RG10/4152/51/41
8 Lower Fold Accrington
Nicholas Sliddon (on original image) 52 Lab. in dye works born Harcourt? Lancs
Sarah 45
Mary E 22 cotton winder
James H 20 lab in dye works
John William 17 lab at dye works
Nicholas 12 short time at paint works
Frederick 10 short time at paint works
John 5
All children born Accrington
Two sons with the name John - that is on the image
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For the record
1881 RG11/4145/82/17
6 Lower Fold Accrington
Sarah Sledden 55 Widow
Nicholas 21 Lab. in iron works
Frederick 19 lab. in iron works
Jonathon 14 lab. in print works
All born Accrington
Births Sep 1866
Sledding Jonathan - Haslingden 8e 144
(Sub-district: Accrington - Mother's Maiden name: HARDY on LancashireBMD)
Jonathan Sledden
Born: 21 Jun 1866 - Birthplace: Accrington, Lancashire
Christened: 26 Aug 1866 - Christening place: Accrington, Lancashire
Father's name: Nicholas Sledden
Mother's name: Sarah
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Marriages Mar 1846
Sledding Nicholas - Haslingden 21 325
Hardy Sarah - Haslingden 21 325
Appears as Nicholas STEDDING on LancashireBMD
1846 marriage to Sarah HARDY at St James, Accrington
Deaths Dec 1877
SLEDDEN Nicholas - Aged 55 - Haslingden 8e 125
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1861 RG9/3067/64/34
8 Lower Fold Accrington
Nicholas SLEDDING (on image) 41 lab dye works Huncoat
Sarah 34
Elizabeth 13
James 10
John W 7
Nicholas 2
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John Sledding - Christened 20 Dec 1847 - Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
John Sledding - Death date: 26 Dec 1847 - Aged 0 - Burial date: 28 Dec 1847 - Burial place: St James, Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
Mary Elizabeth Sledding - Christened 28 Jan 1849 - Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
James Henry Sledding - Christened 21 Sep 1851 - Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
John William Sledding - Christened 16 Jul 1854 - Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
Abraham Sledding - Christened 15 Feb 1857 - Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
Abraham Sledding - Aged 1 - Burial date: 23 May 1858 - Death place: Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
Nicholas Sledding - Born 14 May 1859 - Christened 18 Jun 1859 - Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
Frederick Sledding - Born 20 Dec 1861 - Christened 16 Feb 1862 - Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
Sarah Hannah Sledding - Born 26 Feb 1864 - Christened 27 Mar 1864 - Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
Sarah Hannah Sledding - Aged 1 - Burial date: 26 Oct 1865 - Burial place: St James, Accrington, Lancashire
Father: Nicholas Sledding - Mother: Sarah
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1851 HO107/2250/378/13
Nicholas SLEDDING 34 labourer Huncoat
Sarah 25 New Accrington
Mary Eliazabeth 2 New Accrington
Mary E is the Elizabeth on 1861 census?
On the same page is
Peter Hargreaves 26
Ann 26 born Elm
George 6 born Church
Jane 2 New Accrington
Christopher 5 months New Accrington
Whether these are connected to Margaret Jones/ Hargreaves or not but thought i would mention it.
You have been busy RonOne :)
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You have been busy RonOne :)
:)
It's easy to see how Sledding becomes Sledden given the accent for this area, especially if they were unable to read/write to confirm the spelling.
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1841 HO107/506/35/25/Book6
Bukk Inn yard Old Accrington
Nicholas Sledding 20 labourer born in county yes
James Sledding 15 lab Yes
Cyrus Harwood 20 lab Yes
What are a few dropped g's amongst friends? I should know I was born in Bolton.
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1851 HO107/2250/378/13
Nicholas SLEDDING 34 labourer Huncoat
Sarah 25 New Accrington
Mary Eliazabeth 2 New Accrington
Nicholas Sledding - Born 24 Nov 1818
Baptised 6 Dec 1818 - Baptised by J Hopwood at St James, Accrington, Lancashire
Son of Betty Sledding - Occupation: Weaver - No Father's name is given
Abode: Huncote
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1841 HO107/506/35/25/Book6
Bukk Inn yard Old Accrington
Nicholas Sledding 20 labourer born in county yes
James Sledding 15 lab Yes
Cyrus Harwood 20 lab Yes
James Sledding - Born 24 Oct 1825 - Son of Richard Whitaker & Betty Sledding - Occupation: Weaver
Baptised 15 Jan 1826 - Baptised by William Wood at St James, Altham, Lancashire
Abode: Altham
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altham,_Lancashire regarding Altham
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Good find for the births RonOne
They didn't move far at all over 100 years did they?
It's a pity there was no father named for Nicholas as there was for James.
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I wonder if this John Sledding could be Betty Sledding's brother?
Elizabeth Sledding - Born 15 Feb 1822 - Daughter of John Sledding & Sarah - Occupation: Weaver
Baptisms: 24 Mar 1822 - Baptised by William Wood at St James, Altham, Lancashire
Abode: Huncoat
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There is a possible death registration for Betty Sledding which might be worth looking into on LancashireBMD in 1860, aged 62, at Padiham (about a mile and a half from Altham)
Deaths Jun 1860
SLEDDING Betty - Burnley 8e 141
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I thought I would have a go at finding Margaret Jones, father Richard in 1881. I put in Margaret Jones born 1863+/- 1, father Richard, born Liverpool and this one came up.
RG11/3653/116/29 27 Fitzclarence Street
Richard Jones 53 Commercial Clerk born Eglovystach Denbighshire Wales
Mary Lester Jones 47 Llandudno
Margaret L 18 housekeeper L/pool
Laura Ann 13 l/pool
Catherine E 11 L/pool
Ann Davies 49 sister-in-law Llandudno Carmarthenshire
Isabella Haughton 19 servant L/pool
1881 RG11/4266/48/3
Nicholas Street Lancaster
Thomas Hargreaves 54 Game and fish dealer Torrisholme Lancaster
Ann 55
Thomas 25 coachman
Margaret A 19 assists parents
William H warehouseman 17
John 19
William N Atkinson 23 lodger core driller iron
Ellen Atkinson wife 22
Henry Atkinson son 1
All born Lancaster
Some certificates are needed to confirm the findings.
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hi all thanks for your efforts that was an awsome amount of info , just replyin to say that a relative dropped of a copy of frederick sleddens marriage - margaret hargeaves formerly jones, 1902 , fathers listed as nicholas sledden deceased ,labourer at a printworks, also richard jones deceased ,blacksmith (journeyman)
regards nathaniel sledden.
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Ok scrap the previous census for Richard Jones Try this one
1871 RG10/3790/97/16
15 Holly Street
Richard Jones 45 Blacksmith Holywell Denbighshire
Martha 45 New Church Lancs
Martha 13 Liverpool
Richard 11 Manchester
Margaret 7 and Rachael 7 (twins?) Liverpool
George 4 L/pool
Ann 7 months L/pool
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1881 RG11/4145/40/24
2 and 4 Hood Street ACCRINGTON
Richard Jones 55 Blacksmith's labourer Wales
Martha 52 Culshaw Lancs
Margaret 17
Rachel 17
both born L/pool both cotton weavers
David Scott boarder 38 cotton weaver Bentham Yorkshire
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1891 RG12/3536/45/12
19 Chapel Street Accrington
Richard Jones widow Blacksmith Wicklow Wales
Rachel 27 no occupation
Margaret 27 no occ
both born L/pool
Deaths Dec 1892
Jones Richard 65 Haslingden 8e 115
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Ok scrap the previous census for Richard Jones Try this one
1871 RG10/3790/97/16
15 Holly Street
Richard Jones 45 Blacksmith Holywell Denbighshire
Martha 45 New Church Lancs
Martha 13 Liverpool
Richard 11 Manchester
Margaret 7 and Rachael 7 (twins?) Liverpool
George 4 L/pool
Ann 7 months L/pool
Twins!
Births Mar 1864
JONES Margaretta - Liverpool 8b 86
JONES Rachel - Liverpool 8b 86
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Margaret Jones - Daughter of Richard Jones & Martha - Occupation: Smith
Baptised 16 Mar 1864 by K M Pughe (Curate) at St Martin in the Fields, Liverpool, Lancashire
Abode: Limekiln Lane
Rachel Jones - Daughter of Richard Jones & Martha - Occupation: Smith
Baptised 16 Mar 1864 by K M Pughe (Curate) at St Martin in the Fields, Liverpool, Lancashire
Abode: Limekiln Lane
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Hello RonOne
You've done it again. Good one.
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Hi, crisane
May have fun finding the name Jones in Wales :)
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Hi, crisane
May have fun finding the name Jones in Wales :)
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ::)
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Still in Lancashire
1861 RG9/2791/8/10
25 Bank Quay Warrington
Richard 37 Smith Denbighshire Wales
Martha 35 Warrington
Elizabeth 15 Newton Lancs
John 8 Manchester
Catherine 4 Salford
Richard 2 Salford
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1851 HO107/2228/134/18
3 Court, Scholes Street Manchester
Richard Jones Blacksmith Wrexham Wales
Martha New Church Cheshire
Elizabeth 5 Newtown Willowy? Lancs
Thomas 1 Salford
Too many marriages of a Richard Jones on same page as a Martha between 1841 and 1851 to sort out yours. So a birth cert for one of their children is needed. :)
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hi ronone and crisane your extended efforts are much appreciated myself and my father and my fathers last surviving brother never knew any of this info and it is quite impressive what you have unearthed also on some of your earlier posts about sledden being derived from sledding seem possible as some of the fornames make sense , also some of the names continue to be used for most knew sleddens nowadays mine seeming to be the exception haha.
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also i think my father has a birth cert for margaret sledden daughter of richard jones .
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also i think my father has a birth cert for margaret sledden daughter of richard jones .
If he has that is brilliant because it will give her mother's maiden name as well as her father's name and occupation and where they were living at the time.
The 1841 census is proving a but of a problem, although I haven't spent much time on it, and that is where Margaret's birth certificate would help us locate the marriage for Richard and Martha and give us their father's names.
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If your father has the birth certificate for Margaret I wonder if the mother's maiden name matches this record? Unfortunately no parents names given for the bride and groom.
Richard Jones
Bride's Name: Martha Wood
Marriage Date: 15 Sep 1845
Marriage Place: Cathedral,Manchester,Lancashire,England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M09789-1
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 438207
Reference Number:
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nsledden, we are greatly interested on the other side of the pond about Sleddens, as pertains to the records of Sladens and Sladdens and possible connections. There is a Domesday entry for a thane named Slettan in Dunnington, York, and among many theories, an Old German word for hillside was sleyda and Old Norse for flat places is slatten. It is all rather airy-fairy since there are other theories about sloe berries and other vowel-shift possibilities, but we are trying to blend paper genealogy with genetics when possible whether we get to the root of the name(s) or not.
If you know of any interest in DNA to add to your paper-trail, please SEARCH on Slaton DNA, most engines will find our Family Tree Project.
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Hello, cslayton19. Welcome to RootsChat.
Posting of personal email addresses isn't allowed on RootsChat, to avoid spamming. You can remove it by clicking on edit button.
nsleddon posted on RootsChat at end of December so should get a notification that there has been a new reply to this thread. Clicking on nsleddon's name will bring up profile. Looking through posts by this person on other threads, you might see some relating to the Sleddon family.
As you have made 4 posts you should be able to use the personal message option to exchange contact information.
Have you looked at Sleddon and variants on the surnames interest list to find other Sleddon RootsChatters?
Hills and flat places are appropriate for Lancashire. So are Old German and Old Norse words. Sloe berries are from blackthorn bushes.
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Thanks, I removed the e-mail, I should have intuited that rule but it has been years since I have looked out here.
I have looked at most variant names in postings but there are few Sleddons, relatively speaking, so I will await a reply as to where nsleddon has ever looked at "our" variants. There are about thirty variant spellings, with about ten predominating. This is the first interest I note in that particular spelling since last visit.