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Title: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Tuesday 21 December 10 17:33 GMT (UK)
Can anybody help me find information on William Corcoran, whose home was at Hughes Lot, Cashel, Co. Tipperary, Ireland.

He was in World War 1, and the information I have is that he was killed on 6 May 1918, age 18.   His rank was Private we believe, and we think he might have joined the Munster Regiment.   I have checked the CWGC site, but nothing comes up. 
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: jds1949 on Tuesday 21 December 10 18:07 GMT (UK)
This is the only William Corcoran with a Munster connection which shows on the Medal Index Search of the National Archives:

Medal card of    Corcoran, William
Corps:   Royal Munster Fusiliers
Regiment No:   5466
Rank:   Private

As you say, he does not appear on the CWGC site, nor does any William Corcoran registered there show the death date you have. Where does your information about the date of his death come from?

jds1949
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Tuesday 21 December 10 18:51 GMT (UK)
Thank you for that jds1949.

I am researching information on William Corcoran on behalf of a friend - and the date of his death came from her.
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: jds1949 on Tuesday 21 December 10 19:25 GMT (UK)
Having thought about it I'm a little dubious that the one I posted would have been an 18 year old in 1918. A four figure number usually means either pre-war or early enlistment and I can't see anyone born in 1900 enlisting pre-war or much before the end of 1916. However, one thing I have learnt is that there are often exceptions - perhaps you need to find a Munster Regiment expert who could advise you with more certainty.

Might I suggest you try posting on the Great War Forum as well as this one:

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?

Mention Munster Regiment in the heading.

jds1949
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Tuesday 21 December 10 19:37 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for this information jds1949 - I welcome your advice. 
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: johnny_doyle on Wednesday 29 December 10 08:08 GMT (UK)
the only one with Cashel link but no age given is below. This chap has a 1914 Star so was in at the start of WW1 and probably too old to be your chap.

Name: William Corcoran
Birth Place: Cashel, Co. Tipperary
Death Date: 6 Nov 1917
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Cork
Rank: Corporal
Regiment: Prince of Wales's Leinster Regiment (Royal Canadians)
Battalion: 2nd Battalion
Number: 9576
Type of Casualty: Killed in action


http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=299238

Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: johnny_doyle on Wednesday 29 December 10 08:18 GMT (UK)
is this the family in the 1911 census?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Cashel_Rural/Hughes__Lot__East/840789/

If so, William is listed as 18 in 1911.

Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Thursday 30 December 10 00:14 GMT (UK)
That's fantastic Johnny.   I never thought of looking at the Census.   I contacted my friend with your suggestion, and you are absolutely right!   I can now go ahead with getting her all the relevant information for her ancestor.

My grateful thanks again.
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: johnny_doyle on Thursday 30 December 10 08:20 GMT (UK)
it would be worth double checking if anyone in the family has his medals. They should be inscribed with his name and number.
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Thursday 30 December 10 17:03 GMT (UK)
Hello Johnny,

Good point!    I will get my friend to check this out.   It would be fantastic if someone has them!
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: Mr. MIGKY on Thursday 30 December 10 19:53 GMT (UK)
Just in case it is him, you can get a copy of his gravestone from this site but costs £3.

http://www.twgpp.org/information.php?id=2852262

Or email this kind man and ask if he has a copy( they are free of charge on this site )

http://www.britishwargraves.co.uk/page14.htm Scroll down the page, it list the cemetery so should have his gravestone?

Migky  ;)
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Thursday 30 December 10 21:52 GMT (UK)
Hi Mr. Migky,

Yes, it is him!    And I got the photo of his war grave.

Many thanks for your help on this!
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: johnny_doyle on Thursday 30 December 10 22:01 GMT (UK)
you might want to add further info about William to his Findagrave.com entry

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=corcoran&GSfn=william&GSbyrel=in&GSdy=1917&GSdyrel=in&GSob=n&GRid=56042302&df=all&


Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Thursday 30 December 10 23:40 GMT (UK)
Yes Johnny, I willl certainly look at that.   Thank you.
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: the bell on Friday 07 January 11 19:02 GMT (UK)
johnny-doyle has the right William Corcoran, he was born in hughes lot, Cashel, co Tipperary,
I posted about William and hughes lot, last year and never got any reply. Delighted to see this post.
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 12 January 11 12:02 GMT (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat, the bell. Moderator's have no 'special' way of contacting members but hopefully ComposeMail will see your post (they were last online this morning a few hours ago). Once you've 3 posts yourself you will be able to send and receive PMs (Personal Messages).
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Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Wednesday 12 January 11 13:37 GMT (UK)
Hello the bell.   I did all this on behalf of my friend Constance (she is a niece of the late William).   Perhaps you know her?
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: Menapi on Monday 12 November 12 13:08 GMT (UK)
Recently started researching the Corcoran branch of the family, from Cashel. I believe my Great Great Grandfather was Patrick Corcoran. Patrick was a Town Sergeant in Cashel and worked for the Town Commissioners. I believe he had a son called John, who was the informant on his death certificate. This is the same John Corcoran, the father of William Corcoran you are looking for.
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: Menapi on Monday 12 November 12 13:58 GMT (UK)
Recently started researching the Corcoran branch of the family, from Cashel. I believe my Great Great Grandfather was Patrick Corcoran. Patrick was a Town Sergeant in Cashel and worked for the Town Commissioners. I believe he had a son called John, who was the informant on his death certificate. This is the same John Corcoran, the father of William Corcoran you are looking for.
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Monday 12 November 12 22:03 GMT (UK)
Hi Menapi,
Your Great Great Grandfather Patrick Corcoran married Mary Barry.   They had a son John Corcoran.

John married Kate Morrissey.
They had 13 children, of which 10 were living: see 1911 Census for 4 Hughes Lot East, Cashel.    Also see 1901 Census.
 
One of their children William joined the Leinster Regiment at the outbreak of WW1.   He served in France and Flanders, and was killed on 6 November 1917.

Another of their children Patrick went to USA.   He worked as a shipping clerk in Boston, then enlisted with the U.S. Army at Boston.   He served with them in France, and was honourably discharged from the U.S. Army in April 1919.

Do you know anything about a story behind the reasons William joined the British Army, and Patrick went to USA?
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: Menapi on Tuesday 13 November 12 12:08 GMT (UK)
Hi,
I've sent you a private message, please check your messages and let me know if there's a problem.
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: ComposeMail on Friday 16 November 12 21:50 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I've sent a reply to your personal message.   Let me know if there is any problem.

Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: Maria Dwane on Monday 08 December 14 18:44 GMT (UK)
Hi,

William Corcoran was my grandmother
Title: Re: find WILLIAM CORCORAN: he died in WW1
Post by: Maria Dwane on Monday 08 December 14 18:46 GMT (UK)
William Corcoran was my grandmother brother