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I'm looking for some information about Matthew Moore. I had previously posted a topic but have since found some more information and I'm hoping someone may be able to help me now.
Matthew Francis Moore was born c1891 in Enniscorthy. His father was William Moore - a Post office Inspector.
If anyone can give me any information, I would be eternally grateful!!!
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Hi...I've been looking for my ancestors from Wexford for many years and after reading your post, am thinking there may be a link between our families. I don't have a lot of information, but do know that my ancestor by name of William Moore resided at Enniscorthy Castle at sometime. My Moore family go back as far as 1746 in Wexford and they are the main ones I'm researching at the present time. I've found some details from the Church of Later Day Saints site, but very little other information seems to be available unless I pay an astronomical amount of money to have them researched.
The particular family I'm looking for are: William Moore married Frances Hodson and had several children including my great grandmother x 5 ..Mary Ann Moore (who married her cousin John Moore) This is where the Moore name came into our family. I have no information on William Moore except that he once lived at Enniscorthy Castle. My main line came from Frances Hodson, whose parents were Lorenzo Hodson and Elizabeth Hutchinson.
Not sure if this helps you in any way, but maybe you might have some information I could use. In any way, I would love to hear from you. Good luck with your searches.
Kind regards
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Hi
Thanks for coming back to me. So far, I have drawn a black as far as Matthew is concerned, so its nice to have a reply from someone, even if it does turn out that there is no link - I hope not.
Unfortunately, I know very little about Matthew Moore, and what I do know is sketchy. He is my husband's gr grandfather and died in 1945.
My father in law, only knows what little his mother told him, and sadly she too has passed away now. The story she told was that Matthew was born in Enniscorthy and married somewhere in Ireland - maybe Enniscorth but I'm not sure. There was also some talk of a Castle but again I'm not too sure, but I will quiz my F.I.L again when I get a chance. Matthew was said to have left his wife and several children and moved to London in 1912. Whether or not this is true, again I do not know, but on his marriage certificate, he was recorded as 'widower' so I suspect his wife probably died before he left Ireland. During the war, he worked for Thornycroft Marine Engineering in Reading, Berks and then joined the Flying Corp.
The final piece of information I have, is that one of Matthew's children (from Ireland) became a Nun, and her name was Sister Helen de la Conceptia (probably spelt that completely wrong!) but I haven't been able to find out any more than that.
That is all I can tell you at present, but if any of the above helps, please let me know.
Would the William Moore you are tracing be in the right time scale to be Matthews father - c1870?
Finally, do you know how I would go about finding Matthews birth cert. I have checked the Irish GRO sites, but it would appear that I do not have enough information to complete one of their forms. Is there a BMD registry that you know of?
Thanks again for coming back to me, and apologies if I've rambled on a bit!
Best wishes
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Hello again
Have you checked out the Mormon's website? www.familysearch.org
There are 2 Matthew Moore's there with William as their father, but with b/dates of 1873. Could be worth a look, but no other information.
Also, I've found that by posting messages to other sites such as genealogy.com and a few other good ones on the net have proved very useful to me. Might be worth your while to give them all a try. You'd be surprised at who views these sites and may be able to help you.
As for BDM's, I'm sorry I cannot help you there, I have enough problems looking for my family here in Australia and there is only one state here where I can actullay search online for free for BDM's.
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Hi...I did a search on my Grandfather Matthew Francis Moore and I was directed to this site. My grandfather was originally from Enniscorthy and came over to England and settled in Reading Berks. He died in 1945 from a heart attack, my dad was one of nine children but I am lead to believe that my grandfather also had children back in Enniscorthy. I would love to hear from anyone who could shed some light on my grandfather's life in Eire, as all of my grandfather's children here in England have now passed away. Thanks in advance...
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As you don't give any idea of his age, religion, when he went to UK etc etc...
a possible:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Enniscorthy_Urban/Mary_s_Hill/680128/
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Hello Chevynova and welcome :)
Although this is an old thread, KPM has been online recently so hopefully will see your post.
Have you looked at the Irish Census?
1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Enniscorthy_Urban/Friary_Hill/1787534/
William Moore is a Postman.
Regards
Heywood
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I was thinking that yours and KPM's Matthew were the same person but the information from KPM is that Matthew came to England 1912.
Here is a marriage for the Matthew from the censuses - 1913 :-\
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1914/09842/5573985.pdf
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Here is the birth registration for the same Matthew but it is no use looking further until we feel more sure of him.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1888/02493/1924785.pdf
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Hi Heywood, thanks for the info and having checked the records it does look like we are talking about the same Matthew Francis Moore, my grandfather left Ireland sometime at the beginning of the 1920's, he had 1 daughter from Ireland that I know of and she became a nun Sister Helen and also I've heard Friary Hill being mentioned in the past. KPM mentioned the Flying Corp that was actually my father Peter Norman Francis Moore...
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Hello Hallmark... Thanks for the info, William Moore I believe was my Great Granfather Matthew was my Grandfather who had 9 Children in Reading England, He passed away in 1945 and was Roman Catholic. I understand that Matthew Moore had Children in Ireland other then one child Sister Helen who lived in London
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https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01385/1569612.pdf
Birth of Margaret Moore, 1915, that is the only one I can see.
As I wrote, hopefully KPM will see your post too.
Are you now wanting to go back with the family?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/ may be of help to you.
That site shows a death for Margaret Moore, 26 yrs in 1918 but it has the wrong image. Someone may be able to work out how to find the right one to check.
Regards
Heywood
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I found out how to check the image here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=757058.0
and it isn't her. That Margaret is the wife of a James Moore.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05177/4429196.pdf
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Hello Hayward
Thanks for the last reply,
I had a look at that link about Margaret Moore and the death certificate and yes James Moore was on it but it stated he was there at the death not that he was the Husband.??
Matthew Moore had I think 5/6 Brothers and Sisters one of which was named James Aiden could it be the same person?
I am just trying to find out about Matthew Moore he was my Grandfather but I know very little about him and my Father who passed away in 2001 did not talk about him although my Mum is still alive She also knows very little,
Regards..
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Hello,
You are right :) I must have been so bothered trying to work out how to view the image and then didn't bother to read it properly - sorry!
The address is Templeshannon and the address on the child's registration so presumably the same place.
Heywood
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Margaret Foley's address is Shannon on her marriage to Matthew so it looks very likely.
Have you seen Matthew's family in the censuses posted here?
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Margaret Foley's address is Shannon on her marriage to Matthew so it looks very likely.
Have you seen Matthew's family in the censuses posted here?
Was he the correct Matthew??
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Margaret Foley's address is Shannon on her marriage to Matthew so it looks very likely.
Have you seen Matthew's family in the censuses posted here?
Was he the correct Matthew??
Hi hallmark,
Chevynova says so in replies #9 and 10. What do you think?
Heywood
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Hi...I've been looking for my ancestors from Wexford for many years and after reading your post, am thinking there may be a link between our families. I don't have a lot of information, but do know that my ancestor by name of William Moore resided at Enniscorthy Castle at sometime. My Moore family go back as far as 1746 in Wexford and they are the main ones I'm researching at the present time. I've found some details from the Church of Later Day Saints site, but very little other information seems to be available unless I pay an astronomical amount of money to have them researched.
The particular family I'm looking for are: William Moore married Frances Hodson and had several children including my great grandmother x 5 ..Mary Ann Moore (who married her cousin John Moore) This is where the Moore name came into our family. I have no information on William Moore except that he once lived at Enniscorthy Castle. My main line came from Frances Hodson, whose parents were Lorenzo Hodson and Elizabeth Hutchinson.
Not sure if this helps you in any way, but maybe you might have some information I could use. In any way, I would love to hear from you. Good luck with your searches.
Kind regards
The Moores of Tinraheen in the County Wexford.
The Rev. William Moore, M.A., was ordained priest by the Bishop of Ferns and Leighlin '25th March, 1682 ; Curate of Christ Church, Gorey, of Killisk and Ballycanew, 1682 ; Rector of Kiltennel, 1685 ; and Liskenfere, 1692 ; Prebendary of Clone, 1695 ; and died intestate before the 9th November, 1705. He may have been buried at Ballycanew.
lie was twice married — Firstly, in 1682, to Elizabeth, d. of Major Roger West, and widow of . . . Masterson. She died on the 20 Oct., 1692.
His second wife was Alice, d. of Henry Martin, s. and h. of Anthony, Bishop of Meath. After the death of her 2nd husband she lived at Boley, in the County Wexford [she had been previously married to Thomas Whitfield, of Dublin, whose Will is dated 1689, and was proved in 1691]. Her Will was made in 1729, and proved in 1740.
By his second wife the Rev. William Moore had several children, including a son : —
William Moore of Tinraheen, Co. Wexford, who died in (September, 1756, aged 57, and was buried at Ballycanew. His wife was Frances, d. of Lorenzo Hodson, of Coolkenna House, Co. Wicldow. She died on the 12th December, 1781, aged 73, and was buried at Ballycanew.
Their children were : —
Lorenzo Moore, of Tinraheen, referred to further on.
Jane, d. 1831, aged 83. Buried at Ballycanew.
Alice, m. William, 3rd s. of Robert Clifford of Wexford.
Elizabeth, m. the Rt. Honble. George Ogle of Bellevue, Co. Wexford (ob. 10th Augt., 1814). She died 11th Augt., 1807.
Mary Anne, m. her first cousin, John Moore. Lorenzo Moore of Tinraheen, and of Merrion Square, Dublin,
was an officer in the 6th Carabineers; Colonel of the Battle Axe Guards ; Ranger of the Curragh ; M.P. for Dungannon in Grattan's Parliament, and for Ardfert in 1709. His Will is dated 1787, and was proved in 1801.
In 1771 he married Henrietta, d. of Sir Stephen Theodore Janssen, Bart., by whom he had a large family, one son being : —
The Rev. Calvert FitzGerald Moore, Chaplain-in-Ordinary to George IV, William IV, and Queen Victoria.
He was twice married — 1st to Catherine (ob. 182-3), d. of Major and Lady Catherine Marlay ; and 2ndly to Julia, d. of Sir Benjamin Hobhouse, Bart.
The Rev. Calvert F. Moore died in 1868, aged 79. He was the father of Miss Catherine G. Moore, who married Frederick, son of Sir James Bathurst.
' The above information has been supplied by Miss Katharine Bathurst (10 Bloomfield Terrace, London, S.W.), who is anxious to obtain copies of the inscriptions on the Moore family tombstones
in the Ballycanew Churchyard, Co. Wexford; and information on the parentage of the Rev. William Moore.'
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Hi Chevynova,
I am hoping you get this. I am descendant of Matthew Francis Moore's brother James Aiden Moore. I have possibly everything you are looking for on the Moore Family including detailed information about his first wife and two daughters that were left back in Ireland. It is a very interesting story.
I have been in contact with KPM since 2010.
I hope we can get in contact.
Alan