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:D :) looking for any help with the freegard family in Australia, i know that several branches of this family left the UK at some point but need a little more information to piece things together.
If anyone knows anything i would love to hear from you, have a good Christmas from cold snowy UK, thanks. :) ;)
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There are Freegard's in Australia but some names, dates & any possible state/city/town in Aus for them would be helpful for us to find them for you ::)
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Hopefully this list may help.
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action
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Hi azurich,
From the Victorian indexes:
http://www.access.prov.vic.gov.au/public/PROVguides/PROVguide023/PROVguide023.jsp
Index to Unassisted Inward Passenger Lists to Victoria 1852-1923
Mr. C. P. Freegard, age 32,
Ship: Wiltshire,
Arrived: Melbourne in March 1914,
Port: British,
Fiche: 891, Page 003.
Garnet John Freegard, age 16,
Ship: Ormuz,
Arrived: Melbourne in March 1898,
Port: British,
Fiche: 632, Page 004.
Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871
Mary Freegard, age 22,
Ship: White Star,
Arrived: Melbourne in August 1867,
Port: British,
Book: 14A, Page 163.
Cheers,
Janet.
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My Husbands Freegard relatives came from Calne, Bremhill in Wiltshire.
Is this the area that your relatives came from
Marlene
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Hello,
Thank you all that have replied and to answer all of you, i am looking at the freegard family as they originated from germany i think about 15-16 century and came to the uk and settled in wiltshire.
I think the earliest name i do know of was from about 1670 Frances Freegard married to a Mary, before this i have not researched.
Most names are from around Calne,Bremhill area but i know of some that went to Wales, Birmingham,Leicestershire and some from Preston area.
Although i have others dotted around the uk, Wiltshire is the most likely of my information i have and that i know of several that left uk to live in Australia and New Zealand.
This information is sketchy as i have only found about 2 or 3 records to date.
Marpatch yes to your question,
and i see Garnet john born 1881 Sept of Charlcutte, Wiltshire i have record of him but did not know he left the uk.
He is the son of John Freegard and Katherine Freeth, this would tie up some answers as i found a Samuel Freeth Freegard born in Australia so would expect him to be the son of this family.
Mary Freegard is more difficult to track down but i do have a Mary on my tree from 1844, daughter of Thomas Freegard and Mary Matthews, not sure if same person as rest of this family stayed in Wiltshire.
Thanks Janet for those names, i do not know of MR C.P Freegard just yet but will try and find this name at some point.
thanks again azurich
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Can you answer my question in reply #1?
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Hello Merlin,
No i don't have any names or dates at the moment at hand, i am generally looking at any member of this family if this helps.
If i find them i will post a reply with what i have but it will take me a while to get this information.
Many thanks azurich
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Hello Merlin,
I did find that Samuel Freeth 1883 Calne married, Lucy Eleanor Keren Happuch Freeth in Kensington 1883 so it is Possible that the Samual Freeth i found of 1911?uk or Coolabunia, Queensland married to Ruby Perrett is this family connection.
If it is not then it would be parents John Freegard and Katherine freeth but i am not sure which, both are related by the way, so it does not matter which i have.
Family of Samuel and Ruby are 4 births from Coolabunia, Queensland born between 1940-1945, names hidden now as they may still be alive.
I know the record and consider it probably correct, thanks sorry for publishing names for a while but did not know of 100 year rule.
I have another connection but have not found this yet on my tree.
Thanks Azurich
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The NAA lists a few FREEGARD
http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
Herbert Freegard born 1886 Calne Wilshire lists his sister Louise Smith as his NOK but then he marries and his wife MAggie is his NOK
Jenn
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Birth:
Samuel Freeth FREEGARD b. 5/12/1911 QLD #001198
Father: Garnet John FREEGARD
Mother: Isabella Bruce KERR
Parents Marriage:
Garnet John FREEGARD m. Isabella Bruce KERR 1/1/1908 QLD #002358
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The Advertiser (Adelaide, South Australia) Wed 9th May 1923 p11.
KILLED BY ANONYMOUS LETTER
The receipt of an anonymous letter is said to have caused the death of Mrs. Freegard (76). of Bremhill. Wiltshire. who died two months after her marriage to her third husband. Mrs. Freegard's second husband died early last November. After a very brief courtship Mr. Jacob Freegard proposed to her and was accepted on Christmas Day, and they were married at the village church on January 17. The bride-groom had also been twice married before, and had celebrated his golden wedding with his second wife. Mrs Freegard's health had always been good, and her friends believed that many years of life lay before her. A few day after her wedding, however, she receive an anonymous letter, which said :- "You might have paid your late husband's funeral expenses before buying a wedding dress. If you don't die, the blaze will run away with Jacob." The letter greatly worried her. She began to suffer from heart attacks, and finally died, a victim, so her husband declares of the anonymous letter-writer.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0av3/
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Thanks Merlin,
I understand clearer the parents for Garnet born 1881 charlcutte are John Freegard and Katherine Freeth, Garnet Freegard married Isabelle Bruce Kerr, which i did not know about.
Samuel F Freegard was born in 1911, i have also ida Isabelle freegard born 1913 in kingaroy queensland and Robert Leslie born in 1920 Kingaroy Queensland.
Seems to be clearer now but i do not know of any other births if their are any.
Many thanks Azurich
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Thanks Jenn about the NAA website it proved useful for several relation links, also many thanks to Logan H i find this interesting i think it is Jacob Freegard of 1844 or Jacob of 1856 but it does not mention his age in 1923?
Also if Mrs Freegard kept the name and Mr took on the Freegard name so i am not sure about this but very interesting to see this.
Thanks Azurich
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https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=deaths
you can search Qld BDM's on line you will see a number of deaths for Freegard that are most likely tied in
Jenn
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headstone Garnet and Isabella:
http://austcemindex.com/inscription.php?id=5778946
Leanne
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Hello Marlene,
Answering your question yesterday i think our relation is Albert Henry Freegard who married Mabel Lily Bampton of Plumstead Kent uk and their daughter was D Freegard from Katanning Western Australia or Tambalup, same area not sure.
i know birth dates but cannot put on this web site.
thanks Azurich
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Hello Leanne,
Thanks for showing me this link and photo.
This is definetly the person that i am looking for, sad that they are no longer around but i know it was a long time ago in our life time.
Very interesting to know what they were doing in their life but i still know nothing as to why they came to Australia?
Would love to know how you knew this as well.
If you need any more information please send me a message ans so can everyone else.
Thanks azurich
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azurich,
The earliest I can with the Freegards in Queensland are.
The 1895 Queensland Electoral Roll has a Garnet John Freegard a farmer at McEuen.
The Queensland Horse & Cattle Brand Index 1872-1899 has a Hodley Samuel Freegard with a brand (3SH) licence dated 9th July 1886 for a run/farm at Comet.
Gerry
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Hello Gerry,
What you mention would help as the Freegard family from uk would work farms in Wiltshire around Calne and Bremhill area if you have heard of this place.
The Name Hudley Samuel Freegard is most likely as i have seen also Hadley or Hodley at some point but think they are mistakes only.
3sh would be 3 Shire horses i have heard of this but don't know farming talk well, comet not sure what this means, i think i need to learn queensland maps a lot more from now on as i have several places to look up, Coolabunia, Queensland? Kingaroy Queensland?
Hudley Samuel Freegard or his father was born in Wiltshire uk but i would need to log on to my genesrenuted accout to get more information about him.
Thanks azurich
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azurich,
The earliest I can with the Freegards in Queensland are.
The 1895 Queensland Electoral Roll has a Garnet John Freegard a farmer at McEuen.
The Queensland Horse & Cattle Brand Index 1872-1899 has a Hodley Samuel Freegard with a brand (3SH) licence dated 9th July 1886 for a run/farm at Comet.
Gerry
I can find them back to 1882 in QLD :)
There are FREEGARD's listed in the QLD, NSW, VIC & WA BDM registers :D
Also many mentions of them in the newspapers here:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=%22freegard%22
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Coolubunia is near Kingaroy which is in SE Queensland and Comet is in Central Queensland near Emerald inland from Rockhampton.
Also.
The 1891 England Census has a Harry Freegard, Grandson, 4 years old born at Rockhampton Australia residing at the residence of Jasper & Ellen Strange of London Rd, Caine, Wiltshire.
Gerry
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amongst the deaths in Qld for FREEGARD
reg no 1882/C101
name Audley William Gideon Freegard
father Samuel Freegard mother Emma Strange
reg no 1886/C3946
name Jasper Freegard
father Samuel Freegard mother Emma Strange
just out of interest my greatgrandmother was a Strange from Wiltshire 8)
Jenn
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Hi Azurich
My husbands grandfather was Albert Henry Freegard married to Mable Lily. His mother was Doreen Alberta born in Katanning Western Australia died 1979 Mount Hawthorn WA. Albert & Mable had seven children. Can I ask where your connection is. They left London on the 'Armadale' May 27 1911.
Some of Albert's descendants are still alive.
Marlene
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Sorry to come into this topic late but I have recently found Albert Henry Freegard in my tree. I have his birth, marriage and emigration dates also that he died in 1970 but no death details, date or place.
I also have listed his 7 children with Mabel but absolutely no details on Alwyn, Daphne or Ronald if anyone can help.
I understand Albert & Mabel married on the day before their emigration to Freemantle, what excitement.
Thanks in anticipation, David
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Here is Albert's cemetery info
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00035339
And Mabel is buried with him
http://www2.mcb.wa.gov.au/NameSearch/details.php?id=KC00018169
Other Freegard's here also
regards,
Ros
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From W.A;. reverse marriage index http://www.wamarriage.info/ can see marriage for Daphne and also Alwyn and Ronald
regards,
Ros
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And Daphne's marriage announcement
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article41700469
Alwyn's marriage announcement
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-page3746208
regards,
Ros
adding : description of Dorothy's wedding
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article58971312
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Photo of Daphne
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article83828497
cheers,
ros
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Hi, Ros,
You are just what 'Rootschat' say - an Aristocrat!!
Thank you so much for all this information, I am extremely grateful.
Best regards, David
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A pleasure to help David :)
regards,
Ros
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Hi David
My husband is from Albert Freegards family here in Western Australia, can I ask where your interest in the family stems from. I may be able to help you with some information. I can confirm that Albert died 8th Sept 1970 Mount Hawthorn Western Australia.
May I just add that Alwyn, Daphne and Ronald are still living.
Regards Marlene
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Hi, Marlene,
The way I see it is this:- Both Albert Henry and my Susannah Freeguard, my great grandmother, note the 'u' in the surname were both descendants of George Freegard 1698.
Albert Henry comes down a line from Thomas 1736, Abraham 1769, Thomas 1795, Henry 1818 and Henry 1857.
I come from Charles 1735 (brother to Thomas 1736) via James 1782, James 1815 and Susannah 1854.
I hope this helps. I've only recently found this Australian side which I found very interesting. Please don't hesitate to ask if you require any further details.
Kind regards, David
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HI David,
Thanks for your reply. I seem to be a bit short on my list of children for Thomas 1736 and Ann Driver. I have Abraham, George, Jacob & Isaac, I don't have anything about Charles.
Albert Henry And Mabel left London 27th Feb on the "Armadale" arriving Fremantle Western Australia 10th July 1911.
Regards Marlene
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Hi, Marlene,
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Kind regards, David
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Parents of Albert henry freegard 1882 Bremhill are Henry Freegard b 1857 21 august d 1908 Blunsdon Wiltshire. Married to Mary Jane Dash or Dark sorry Marlene i still cannot find any evidence yet but lets say Dash.
Henry and Mary J Dash have the following children.
1 Florence Kate Freegard 1879-1971 married to William Norton who later died and Florence then married William Clarke.
2 Albert Henry 1882 married to Mabel Bampton
Mabel Bampton is Daughter of William James Bampton 1864 Plumstead and Lily Culpitt 1868 Plumstead
3 Frederick John 1889 Calne
4 Arthur Edgar 1890 Bremhill married to Elizabeth Puzey 1895 Stanford in the Vale
5 Ellen Amelia 1892 Wootton Bassett married to John West 1890 Cricklade Wiltshire
6 Frances Louisa 1893 Wootton Bassett married to Henry Charles Roberts 894 Stratton st Margaret Swindon.
Henry Freegard 1857 is son of Henry Freegard 1818 Bremhill or Wick in 1891 census and Francis Godwin Loveday 1820 of Broad Hinton aka Fanny. Daughter of Solomon Loveday 1792 and Francis Godwin 1794 All Canning Wiltshire.
Now here is the interesting part i have Thomas Freegard 1795 Foxham Wiltshire married to Mary Cook 1785 Bremhill, children are
1 Henry Freegard 1818 Bremhill
2 William Freegard 1821 Bremhill married to Sarah Summer 1820
3 Elizabeth Freegard 1823 Bremhill d 1857
4 Emily Freegard 1828 Bremhill D 1843? Calne
Thomas Freegard 1795 is son of Abraham Freegard 1769 Foxham Married 8 dec 1794 Wiltshire, died 1825 Foxham Wiltshire married to Margaret Matthews b abt 1770 Bremhill.
Charles Freegard 1791 is the only record i can find and was married to a Hannah Surname yet unknown.
Also i do have a part record of Charles Freegard married to Mary Pearce but i do not know this record well married in 1818.
Could well be the same Mary for all i know Pearce/Cook
I think the record from 1764 to 1795 may be difficult to interperet as i have George Freegard 1762 also married to Hannah 1764?
I have researched can open for debate as to how correct it is.
Please double check the above in as much as you can but it is difficult to get correct information from before 1837
My tree is from George Freegard 1765 Foxham and Ann Cole 1762 Foxham
Thanks
Azurich
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Hi, azurich,
I have it as Mary Ann DASH.
As far as I can see you George b 1765 was the son of Thomas b 1736. My line stems from his brother, Charles b 1735. Thomas and George were the sons of George b 1698/1700 and Elizabeth, nee thought to be Painter but awaiting clarification. Perhaps you can help on that point.
Kind regards, David
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I have the family of Albert Henry Freegard 1882 and Mabel Bampton it may give you some more information that you don't know but please research this.
Sorry some of the post has been removed now as some persons could still be alive that i do not know about.
Moderator Comment: Please do not publish names of people who may be still alive.
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Hi David,
I had a chat last year with Marlene about Mary j Dash, i think i had found exactly the same record as you have which was born abt 1855-1857 Malmesbury and i did find a Mary Ann Dash and associated family around then.
After checking with a certificate that Marlene posted by email i took this to the Swindon Family History Center in Chippenham, their they had someone check this handwriting and as far as they were concerned clarified it was Mary Jane and not Ann.
Since then i believe we can now say it is definitely Mary Jane Dash.
See attachement
Sorry i cannot help yet as to If George did Marry Elizabeth Painter, if this is correct you are doing well to find this information.
Yes you have my stem of tree correct.
Thanks Alan
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Hi, Alan,
Thank you for this message and sharing the picture. I have amended the details on my tree and will continue to search for a definitive on George's wife.
Glad I have your stem/branch of the tree correct.
All the best, David
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Hi, Alan,
Further to my last message and checking the data I already had I have some issues namely the death year of Mary Jane. On close examination it looks like 1907 but taking her 79 years off would make her birth year as 1828 meaning she was Henry's 29 years senior!! Most unlikely. 1937 would be more appropriate but it doesn't look like that either. Any suggestions?
Regards, David
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Hello David,
You do have a good point on reflection tonight we all are looking for birth 1855-1857 Malmesbury area, the photo clearly says shes 79 years old but is it 1907 or 1937, i was convinced 10 minutes ago it was 1937 until your reply.
After looking again at the image is it possible she died in 1907 and was born 30 years earlier than that would mean she was born about 1828.
Very good point so we should all look for 1826-1829 malmesbury now and hope we find something, if it is 1937 then i still don't find anything from 1855-1858.
It's funny as i don't think i have seen any census records much of there life together.
If the photo is really from her death in 1907 why did they get all the records so wrong.
Searching 1828 record will be difficult, best bet would be 1841,1851,1861.
I don't know but i will stick with died 1937 until we get any more information.
Thanks for letting me know it could be 1907.
The headstone does say 79 years old so i would go for this but it could be wrong.
It could be that it is so badly worn we cannot read it properly?
Thanks Alan
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Hello David,
I have zoomed this image and as far as i can tell Mary Jane Dash died in 1937.
thanks alan
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Great, Alan, that looks pretty convincing.
Many thanks, David
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Hi David.
Thanks At least we both think she died in 1937 now.
The birth date record i still cannot find it is either Mary Jane Dash or Mary Jane Dark but neither show anything.
As You said earlier i would have got the same record as you Mary Ann Dash, Maybe she lied and said Mary Jane we will never know
From all the names that are given i think it was possibly Mary ann dash as you said but the records say different as it can be proven about this record.
Maybe we will never know what the real record is maybe it was never recorded even.
Mary Jane born abt 1857 died 1937 is what i know of.
Mary Jane Dash is what we are searching.
Thanks Alan
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Hi
In regard to the mystery surounding Mary Jane Dash birth, I came across these records and would like your opinion.
Mary jane Dash christening: 30 Sep 1860 Wootton Bassett, Wiltshjre, England parents: Elizabeth Dash
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 residence: Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England
Name Mary Jane Dash
gender: Female
baptism /christening 30 Sep 1860
date:
baptism /christening Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England
place:
mothers name: Elizabeth Dash
indexing project Cl 5 298-2
(batch) number:
system origin: England-yR
source him number: 1 279360
Elizabeth Dash birth: 1831 Wiltshire
England and Wales Census, 1841 census: 1841 Wootton Bassett, Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England
name: Elizabeth Dash
event: Census
eventdate: 1841
gender: Female
age: 10
birthplace: Wiltshire
record type: Household
registration Cricklade & Wootton Bassett
district: Union
sub-district: Wootton Bassett
civil parish: Wootton Bassett
county: Wiltshire
Elizabeth Dash birth: 1832 Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire
England and Wales Census, 1861 census: 1861 Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire, England
name: Elizabeth Dash
event: Census
eventdate: 1861
gender: Female
age: 29
relationship to head Lodger
of household:
birthplace: Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire
record type: Household
registration district: Cricklade
sub-district: 1 Wootton-Bassett
civil parish: Wootton Bassett
county: Wiltshire
Elizabeth Dash birth: Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire
England and Wales Census, 1851 census: 1851 England
Elizabeth Dash age19
gender: F
birthplace: Wootton Bassett, Wiltshire
relationship to head Servant
of household:
record type: Household.
My only concern is that on Mary's marriage Cert it lists James Dash/k as her father. (Labour) Unfortunatley the writting is very hard to read.
Regards Marlene.
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Hi, Marlene,
I have no information regarding the Dash family other than two who have married into the Freegard family, my ancestry, namely Mary Jane and Emily Hannah who I guess were sisters. These girls married Henry and John Edward Freegard respectively. Not much help I know.
Kind regards, David
PS. I have sent you a PM on the subject.
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Hi Marlene,
Replying to the christening record you have found not sure if you asked me this before.
Upon reflection of christenings they do not have to match birth dates so for example i know of Freegard family from 1700s the christenings could be 1-5 years after their actual birth date.
It is possible Mary Jane Dash was born 1855-1857 and was Christened in 1860 with mother Elizabeth Dash.
I see that the record she was in the work house so may be Mary Jane Dash never had a father?
I do not find any record with Dark so i can assume it is Dash only.
Mary Jane Dash the only record that can possibly match is the 1855 record from Malmesbury 5a 42, this is 2 years out but i have a feeling that we need to order the Birth certificate for this record to find out if Elizabeth is the mother.
It is also possible the records from freebmd have not been updated and a record of 1857-1858 Mary Jane Dash has not been transcribed yet.
All of the above are possible but the only one that we can confirm would be ordering the birth record from 1855 of Mary Jane Dash Malmesbury district.
Thanks Alan
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Hi Marlene et al,
I've researched my hubby David's Freegard family.. his great-great-grandparents were John Freegard (1848-1903) and Katharine Freeth (1847-1922). Their daughter Alice Maud Freegard (1877-1975) was his great-grandmother. I didn't know their son Garnet migrated to Australia as well, so thanks for that info. Alice married William Charles Weeks (1878-1949) in 1899, they migrated to Australia c1900 and lived at Taabinga, near Kingaroy, in Queensland. Alice died and was buried there, William died and was buried in Brisbane.
I've attached a photo of John and Katharine's headstone in St Martin's churchyard, Bremhill, Wiltshire. Also attached is that of John's parents' Thomas Freegard (c1811-1879) and Margaret (c1817-1856) (nee Matthews), John's grandfather John Freegard (1764-1837), and great-great-grandmother Elizabeth Freegard (nee ??) (c1697-1767) and her son John (1727-1757) (modern text superimposed over faded inscription). John Freegard's inscription reads..
"Sacred to the memory of / JOHN FREEGARD / Who departed this life / 17th February 1837 aged / 73 years / Mourn not dear wife at my decease / hope with God is made in peace."
So my hubby's line is.. Alice Maud Freegard -> John Freegard & Katharine Freeth -> Thomas Freegard (c1811-1879) + Margaret Matthews (c1817-1856) -> John Freegard (1764-1837) + Elizabeth Wilkins (c1768-1859) -> James Freegard (1725-1799) + Susannah Hill (c1732-1794) -> George Freegard (c1699-1770) + Elizabeth ? (c1697-1767) All the Freegard men from Bremhill, Wiltshire. Their wives: Katharine Freeth, born Burghclere, Hampshire; Margaret Matthews, born Tockenham, Wiltshire; Elizabeth Wilkins, born White Cleeve, Wiltshire; Susannah Hill, born Berwick St John, Wiltshire.
Rachel
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Hi, Rachel,
Thank you for this latest post and pics, really good of you to share.
So, your husband and I descend from George 1699 as many Freegard researchers do. He's a lot to answer for!! ;D
I see your David comes down from James b 1725 I descend from his brother Charles b 1735.
All the best, David
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Sorry people no new information to offer
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I am new to RootsChat. I have registered because I have been following the various posts regarding the Freegard family in Australia, but with particular interest to the Bremhill origins. I am related to the Bremhill Freegards through my mother. Regarding Mary Jane Dash - I have obtained a copy of her death certificate. This wasn't easy, but I took a plunge with a Fanny Freegard registration around the right time of her death. At the time of death she was living at the family farm in Blunsdon. Her son in law Henry Roberts (who married Frances Louise, my mother's Aunt Louie d. 1970 no offspring) registered the death. Our theory (my mother's, my uncle's and mine) is that Mary Jane was called Fanny by her husband Henry, and it is possible that her children didn't know her real name (people not having been so open about personal matters of any sort in those days). As Henry Freegard had died in 1909, and Louie didn't marry until 1919, it makes sense that Henry Roberts would not know any different at that stage. Obviously it was sorted out before the headstone was produced, as grave of both Henry and Mary Jane Freegard can be seen in the cemetery at Blunsdon.
I hope this is of interest.
Regards
J Perkins
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Thank you for your very interesting post, I'm as very pleased to hear that someone has found Mary's death Cert. My interest is through my husbands grandfather Albert Henry Freegard, son of Henry and Mary Jane.. Could you post details of Vol and page numbers for Mary's Cert as I'd like to order a copy. My last contact for Mary is 1911 Census where she was living with Albert Henry at Newlands Farm Blunsdon. I have never completely solved the problem of proving who Mary's parents were, but I am certain that her surname was Dash as its clearly written on my copy of Frances Louise's birth Cert.
Albert Henry must have left Blunsdon shortly after the Census was recorded as he arrived here in Western Australia 10th July 1911.
Regards Marlene
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Hello, Marlene.
The details of the death registration for Mary Jane Freegard nee Dash: Vol 5a Page 7; Reg District Swindon; Inferred County Wiltshire; Oct - Dec qtr 1937.
Albert Henry Freegard married Mabel Lily Bampton on 26 May 1911 and left for Australia from London the next day on the Armadale.
My mother tells the tale of how she opened the front door one day and saw a man whom she thought was her father. She wondered how he could be in the kitchen and at the front door at the same time, until he spoke and asked to see Arthur (Edgar Freegard my grandfather). It was her uncle Albert on a visit from Australia. Apparently, her parents took him into the front room (in the days when the front parlour was kept for Sundays and visitors only), and she never saw him again. Apparently he invited any member(s) of the family who wanted to go and live with him in Australia, but Arthur and Mary Jane turned the offer down without consulting anyone else. Mum often wonders what her life would have been like if she had gone!
There is a record on the UK Incoming Passenger Lists 1878-1960 of the arrival at Tilbury on 2 June 1938 of an A Freegard 56 farmer, travelling alone. This tallies with Mum's story.
Regards
Jacqueline Perkins
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Hello again, Marlene
Just noticed mistake - it was Arthur and Elizabeth May (nee Puzey) who turned down the offer of a new life in Australia (not Mary Jane!) - sorry
Regards and contrition
J Perkins
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Hello Jacqueline.
Thanks for your quick reply. Yes of your details are correct regarding Albert and Mabel. Fancy your mother remembering Albert's visit to your mothers house. I didn't realise that Albert had made a trip home in 1938. I knew that Mabel and her son Norman had made a journey home without Albert, returning to Australia on TSS Jervis Bay leaving London 21st Oct 1924. Your mother probably would have liked Albert's farm in Gnowangerup. Western Australia, its very similar to Wiltshire except for the flies and heat in summer.
Regards Marlene
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Hi Jacqueline
I have sent you an private message through Roots with my email address, please contact me if I can help with more info about Albert.
Regards Marlene
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Hi,
It's just a quick reply can Timothy b Freegard return the email that i got the other day from Avondale Redmond WA thanks.
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Hi- I am Dale Freegard married to Lindsay Freegard -son of Ronald Freegard who is the son of Albert Henry Freegard (1882-1970) who was the son of Henry Freegard (1857-1909) and Mary Jane Dash 1885-1937. I have only just started doing the Freegard family tree but see lots has been done so I am slowly reading through all what has been written. Ron Freegard is 86 and is well and his wife Marj and retired in Albany WA. In the next few weeks the whole family has organized a bus and we all going to Gnowangerup to see the old farm that Albert farmed on etc.
Love to hear from other Freegard family.
Regards Dale
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Hi Dale,
Good to hear from you. Our common ancestor is George Freegard 1698-1770. You come down from his son, Thomas 1736-1825, whereas I cascade from his brother, Charles 1735-1808.
So, welcome aboard. I'm sure you'll find many cousins here in the UK.
Regards, David
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Sorry post removed and sorry if i offended anyone that wasn't my intention.
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I have just stumbled upon this post and am wondering if someone could help me with a Freegard family in Calne. Sarah Ann Freegard was born in Bremhill, Wilts 1836. On some census she is recorded as housekeeper to Thomas Henly of Calne. It would appear that Thomas fathered several children with Sarah Ann but never married her. At one point I believe Thomas Henly asked the courts to rid her of his household. Their several children were all registered as Henly Freegard but later some took the surname of Henly and became Freegard Henly.
I wonder if anyone could shed anything more about this dysfunctional family.
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Hi Trancesgirl,
I think I can offer you some help with this family. I'll send you a PM and we can go on from there.
All the best, David
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Hi Tranesgirl, David and Dale
Its nice to see some new postings on the Freegard family.
Tranesgirl, I would be interested in hearing more about the courts involvement with Sarah Freegard.
Dale. I'm married to one of Ron's nephew's and live in Rockingham, I'll send you a PM asap. I also have been researching the family tree for quite some time I would have loved to have joined in on the visit to the family farm in Pallinup. We sent Ron a copy of Albert's war records which are now open to download on the Australian war records site.( National achieves)
Best regards to you all
Marlene
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Hi Marlene,
It was reported in the Devizes & Wiltshire Gazette of May 22nd 1890 (page 6) under the heading 'Threatening to Murder a Paramour' that armed with an axe he came home with the intention of "chopping her head in two". He threatened to murder her if she and "her family" did not leave the house. But they were his children!!
Thomas & Sarah Ann never married but cohabited for years following the death of Thomas's first wife, Sarah Walker, in 1858.
The Court found him guilty and sentenced him to 21 days in gaol with hard labour. Thomas died in 1897 and Sarah Ann a year after that.
The Rockingham you mention, Marlene, whereabouts is that?
Regards, David
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Thanks David.
I remember you telling me a tale about Thomas and Sarah a few years ago when we were in contact. I believe that you mentioned that Sarah lived in the shed - Can you fill me in on some more details, I don't have any info on Sarah Walker and very little on Sarah Ann Howell. I have 9 children listed all with the surname Freeguard.
Rockingham is in Western Australia, We're hoping for a trip home before 'old age' really catches up with us - We need to explore Wiltshire's beauty spots in more detail.
Regards Marlene
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Sorry David...
I have mixed up my Thomas's. I thought that you were talking about Thomas Freegard and Sarah Howell...I realise now that you are talking about Thomas Henley and Sarah Freegard..
Any info would still be appreciated.
Marlene
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Hi, please keep any freegard reply to the english room if thats what you are looking for many thanks.
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Here is a letter from A Freegard to my 3xgreat grandmother, Jane New, who lived in Pahi, Northland, NZ.
The letter is from 24 Apr 1908 -address - Newlands Farm, Blunsdon, Highworth, Wiltshire In 1911 he emigrated, newly married to Western Australia, served in WW1, had a family of seven children and died in WA 1970.
Dear Mrs New
I have taken the pleasure of writing a few lines to you after arriving home quite safe after a long voyage of Feb 11 leaving Wellington for home arrived in London April 11 / we had a rough voyage the engines keep breaking down and the firemen was taken ill through having bad water on board and we run short of food so you see we had a lively time but very glad to be home after that lot. Well Mrs New I must tell you a little about home a fares now. Sorry to say that I found my father still ill in bed. He went under his operation in December last but never be sight again. We are getting some very rough weather for April heavy snow storms to cold to please me but still I must put up with it as home must be see to. I only wish that Father was well I think that I would be soon having another trip out to see how it is later on. Well I suppose Pahi and Whakapirau is looking about the same and all the girls I have been visiting the old ones this week having great times. I hope you had a good day for Paparoa Show. Did you beat Mrs Coates sheep this year. I think it wants some of your Cattle over here as they are very dear not much of a cow for 28 pounds calves a wee old makes from 1 pound 18s to 2 pounds each meal 15s a sack. Things is looking up this last year they tell me. Well think this is all I have to tell you this time hoping this will find you all quite well also the young lady help as I forget her name. Please remember me to Mr New & Mrs New hoping we shall meet again some day. I am yours sincerely A Freegard
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Hi Rachel
I have just seen your post and would like to add that Garnet John Freegard was my grandfather. I remember meeting a Paul Weeks when I was a child. I lived at Tingoora near Kingaroy as a child but now live in Brisbane. As far as I know there is only 1 male Freegard left from this line. I have some information but am interested to find out if other Freegards I have seen in West Australia particularly are related. All Garnet's children have passed away too
Hope you get this
Gail