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Title: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: dwrcrawford on Thursday 16 December 10 23:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Antrim historians.

Do any of you have any idea where Bogtown on/in the Braid would be?

I have a narrative pertaining to someone i hope to find is a direct ancestor and their home is titled as Bogtown in the Braid (and is presumably in the general area of Slemish/Broughshane)

The person in particular is Nancy (Nannie) Boyd who was the wife of Thomas Craford of the Braid. They had 3 children, Robert, William and Janet (who would marry Matthew Crawford of Raloo who is presumed to be her cousin)

My Crawford line has been based in Ballycraigagh/Ballycregagh near Clough, Antrim since early 1800s where the earliest confirmed ancestor is Robert (Robin) Crawford.
The 1766 Freeholders has a Matthew Crawford of Ballycraigagh. My aim is to find out what if any link there is to this Matthew Crawford of Ballycraigagh and the Matthew Crawford of Raloo and I think this family at Bogtown in the Braid could be the link.

Thanks
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Friday 17 December 10 00:01 GMT (UK)
There's a couple of references to it here, which would suggest it's around Kilwaughter somewhere.

http://irishgenealogy.net/cp/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=81

Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: The Crow on Saturday 15 January 11 14:56 GMT (UK)
There's a Bogtown in Carncastle. As with the Crawford's of Raloo they seem to claim descent from the Cloverhill branch of the family. if you feel that you are conected to Crawford's of Carncastle i'd be glad to hear from you.

David
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: scotmum on Saturday 15 January 11 18:32 GMT (UK)
There was a Bogstown in the Braid area. In the book Presbyterianism in Buckna 1756 to 1992, it details the original boundaries of the parish/church. Within same it states:

"...from Tecloy Hill to Bogstown; road from Bogstown, through Loughconnelly, to Ballymena Road;..."

and a hand drawn, rough map also clearly shows Bogstown within the boundary line.
 
There were certainly folks of the Crawford name in the Loughconnelly area in mid 1800s too, with the forenames Thomas, Mrs., Robert and William recorded together in an 1862 Communicants list for Buckna church. I shall try and get some time to check for other mentions of the surname in the book and update this post accordingly.

If you PM me with your email address, I will be happy to send you a jpeg picture of a partial OS map with Bogstown clearly recorded, which will enable you to compare it with more modern maps.
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: kel28 on Saturday 11 April 20 02:05 BST (UK)
Hello, I am interested in any information on this area and the Crawford's of this area.   My third Great Grandfather is Robert Crawford a farmer from this area.   He had three daughters that I know of, Nancy, Margaret and Elizabeth.   I know Nancy was born in 1844, however, I do not know her mothers name or any confirmed dates for Robert. 

I am also interested in an Adam Gibson, carpenter, who was from Bogstown in the Braid, any information would be greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 11 April 20 09:07 BST (UK)
Needs to be checked but will give you some more leads to follow...

Nancy Crawford, Loughconly, daughter of Robert Crawford, married 1867 in 1st Broughshane Presbyterian Church to Charles Montford
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1867/11481/8220173.pdf

Is this the Nancy Crawford you are looking for? if so...

Robert Crawford, a widower, of Loughconley, died 1888 (born c1809)-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1888/06162/4761004.pdf (old age- 4 days)

Informant was son William Crawford of Loughconley which leads to this household in 1901 and 1911-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Longmore/Loughconnolly/928749/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Longmore/Loughconnelly/293230/

Marriage of Robert Crawford to Rachel Simpson confirms his father called Robert Crawford-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10558/5846122.pdf

Will extracts for Robert & brother William-
Crawford William of Loughconnolly county Antrim retired farmer died 15 March 1925 Administration Belfast 17 September to Robert Crawford farmer. Effects £101 4s.
Crawford Robert of Loughconnelly county Antrim farmer died 30 January 1937 Administration Belfast 24 May to William Crawford farmer. Effects £239 17s. 8d.

Which leads to the brother Thomas Crawford who is going to be your new favourite relative as becomes apparent in next post (since this one is getting a bit long)  :)
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 11 April 20 09:19 BST (UK)
Thomas Crawford is important because he applied for Old Age Pension (had to be age 70 or older but people often didn't know exactly when they were born). In Thomas case there's an extract online (found just by googling 'Crawford & Loughconley')-
CRAWFORD Thomas Robert CRAWFORD Margaret Loughconnolly Skerry Lower Antrim ANTRIM 1851 Jane 9, Nancy 8, Thomas 5, Lizzie 3, William 10months, Robert.
http://www.ireland-genealogy.com/view_category/Page-4.html
To translate a bit-
The Crawford family in 1851 at Loughconnolly consisted of Robert Crawford, wife Margaret with children Jane, Nancy, Thomas, Lizzie, William, Robert*
*since Robert's age isn't given, and William only 10 months old, it's possible he was born after 1851 census and name taken from Thomas' application.
As far as I know, PRONI in Belfast (closed at the moment due to coronavirus restrictions) would have microfilmed copy of form.

So, looking for a Margaret Crawford of Loughconley who died before 1888 with husband William brings up this death-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06531/4881906.pdf (breast cancer- 3 years)

You mentioned that Nancy Crawford had sisters Margaret & Elizabeth- Elizabeth could be the Lizzie in 1851 census and Margaret born after 1851
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: Elwyn Soutter on Saturday 11 April 20 09:23 BST (UK)
I see a marriage for Elzabeth Crawford of Loughconnelly (daughter of Robert) to John Montford, also of Loughconnelly, on 3.11.1872 at Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian church.

Family in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Longmore/Loughconnolly/928752/
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: scotmum on Saturday 11 April 20 09:34 BST (UK)
I see a marriage for Elzabeth Crawford of Loughconnelly (daughter of Robert) to John Montford, also of Loughconnelly, on 3.11.1872 at Ballymena 3rd Presbyterian church.

Family in 1901:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Longmore/Loughconnolly/928752/

This Elizabeth died 16 May 1926, Broughshane.

Their daughter Mary Montford (born 1883 Loughconley/Loughconnelly), emigrated in May 1905, married an Adam Gibson (born 1881 Fenagh, Ahoghill) in California in 1913 and went on to have family born in USA. Could this Adam be the one mentioned in your opening post kel28, or, given you said Adam was from the Braid, were you looking for an earlier Adam Gibson (eg one married to Ann Lilley, children William [married in New York in 1870] and Isabella)?
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 11 April 20 10:45 BST (UK)
A Margaret Crawford, Loughconley, daughter of Robert Crawford, married in 1886 Alexander McFetridge of Deerpark, Glenarm-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1886/10840/5957287.pdf

Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 11 April 20 10:56 BST (UK)
See also Montford thread- https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=828748
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: myluck! on Saturday 11 April 20 12:18 BST (UK)
Hello, I am interested in any information on this area and the Crawford's of this area.   My third Great Grandfather is Robert Crawford a farmer from this area.   He had three daughters that I know of, Nancy, Margaret and Elizabeth.   I know Nancy was born in 1844, however, I do not know her mothers name or any confirmed dates for Robert. 

I am also interested in an Adam Gibson, carpenter, who was from Bogstown in the Braid, any information would be greatly appreciated

There is a marriage on Jan 15 1852 of Robert CRAWFORD to Eliza Isabella GIBSON
in Newtowncrommalin Presbyterian Church
Robert was from Skelly, Ballymena (F) John
Eliza was from Little Skelly (F) Thomas
Witnesses David JOHNSTON & James ELLIOT

I can see that the births given above are earlier but there may be some connection or Robert may have married twice
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 11 April 20 13:52 BST (UK)
Just found new thread on Crawfords (with a few replies)-
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=828750.new#new
Title: Re: Bogtown in the Braid
Post by: kel28 on Sunday 12 April 20 01:55 BST (UK)
Thank you all so much for all your posts and information, everyone's information seems to be correct and matches to the Robert Crawford I am looking for.   The 1851 census for the old age pension for Thomas, seems to be inline with what I have already found.   I tried to google for the actual document, but was unable to locate it, I did find a transcribed version, but just list the names and ages of children, which is extremely helpful, although would love to see the actual document.   I do know they had 5 children, Jane, Nancy (1844), William, Elizabeth (1854) and Margaret (1857), so this census record matches perfectly, and gives me more Dates of birth, and two more children of Thomas and Robert.   I have found the families of Nancy, Margaret and Elizabeth, still on the hunt for Jane.   You have all been so kind and helpful, I really do appreciate it.  I am able to piece together more of my family.   

I know I mentioned Adam Gibson, he was a carpenter also from the Bogstown Braid area, and would have been born before 1829.