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Title: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: lmsb on Tuesday 14 December 10 07:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Listers,
Hopefully you maybe able to help me find info on Elizabeth and her parents before she immigrated to New Zealand abt 1871. 
She was born abt 1843 in England?, married Henry Roberts in 1873 in New Zealand and she died 1 Oct 1881 in Christchurch New Zealand age 34 yrs and buried in Linwood Cemetery, Christchurch NZ with her husband.
On her cemetery data it states her place of birth - Cornwall UK, 16 years in NZ.
Any thing of her and her family would be much appreciated.

Thank you,
Regards.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: XXXX on Tuesday 14 December 10 09:02 GMT (UK)
Hi lmsb

The following digitised immigration passenger record is available on:

https://beta.familysearch.org

just click on "Australia and New Zealand", then click on "New Zealand Immigration Passenger Lists, 1871 - 1915"

Name: Elizth Jane Crowl
Age: 18 years
Estimated Birth Year: 1853
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Origin: Cornwall
Occupation: Genl Servt
Shipping Company: 
Ship's Name: Charlotte Gladstone
Departure Port: 
Departure Date: 05 Nov 1870
Arrival Port: Canterbury
Arrival Date: 21 Jan 1871
Ship's Departure Port: 
Ship's Arrival Port: Canterbury

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,

Janet.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: XXXX on Tuesday 14 December 10 09:13 GMT (UK)
Also:

Births March quarter 1853

Crowl, Elizabeth Jane.  District of St. Austell, Cornwall.  Vol 5c, Page 161.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 14 December 10 09:16 GMT (UK)
From https://beta.familysearch.org
Elizabeth Jane CROWLE, daughter of Samuel CROWLE and Mary, was baptised at St Ewe, Cornwall on 29 May 1853.

1851:
RG9/1551/74/2 - High St, St Stephen, Cornwall
Samuel CROWL - Head - 33 - Miner - St Stephen
Mary CROWL - Wife - 27 - St Ewe
E J CROWL - Dau - 8 - St Stephen
John CROWL - Son - 6 - St Stephen
J W CROWL - Son - 4 - St Stephen
William CROWL - Son - 3 - St Stephen

Rambler
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: XXXX on Tuesday 14 December 10 09:22 GMT (UK)
From:

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/search

Elizabeth Jane Crowle married Henry Roberts in 1873, Reg#6946

Suggestion, you may like to put a post on the New Zealand board requesting that someone please check for the intention to marry (ITM).  I have received the most wonderful assistance from the team on the NZ board with my research.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: Manchester Rambler on Tuesday 14 December 10 09:26 GMT (UK)
Samuel in 1841:

HO107/146/ /5 - Pennance, St Stephen, Cornwall
Peter  CROWL - 68 - Ag Lab
Catherine CROWL - 65
Harriot CROWL - 25
Thomas CROWL - 20
Samuel CROWL - 20
(All born Cornwall.)
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: lmsb on Tuesday 14 December 10 10:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Janet 666 & Rambler, + the future listers that may reply.
wow how fast was that, thank you very much and will follow up on the links and suggestions.  i've found the ship passenger list and found that Elizabeth mirgrated on her own with no siblings, mmm oh ok the penny has just dropped [excuse the punt] maybe she met her husband  - Henry Roberts (from Cornwall, his mother Mary Roberts -nee ?; d. 24.11.1883 St Dennis, Cornwall England)  decided to move to NZ.  I'm only presuming thats may or could of happened. 
I will get on to ITM as i have a contact in Christchurch that she could look that up for me.

I'm one happy, delighted, excited person with what you two have done for me, sooo quick, and a huge thank-you.

Yes like wise, a very merry xmas and a wonderful new year, to all.

Regards
lmsb
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 14 December 10 13:40 GMT (UK)
Merry Christmas to you also lmsb :)

CROWLE Christenings. Ladock, Cornwall to PETER and CATHERINE;
MARY 06 Sept 1796
JOHN 16 Sept 1804
RICHARD 07 Sept 1806
KATHERINE 09 Jan 1809
ANN 02 April 1811
PETER 15 March 1812
HARRIETT 13 March 1814
THOMAS 12 Jan 1817
SAMUEL 16 April 1820

Marriage;
Pet CROWL
Cath HOCKING, 01 December 1795, Ladock, Cornwall

All Extracted Records IGI at Familysearch

Cornwall OPC has extra info on the Marriage, both of Ladock at time of Marriage.
Witness William HOCKING

Trish :)
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: lmsb on Wednesday 15 December 10 09:59 GMT (UK)
Thank you Trish, i've looked up on the OPC what a wonderful site, i'm taking all advise on all that's been given to me.  You've all been so kind. 

Thank you.

Regards to all.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: lmsb on Thursday 16 December 10 09:44 GMT (UK)
You wouldn't know what year that Samuel and Mary married and what Mary's maiden name was.  I've look on all the suggested sites but haven't been able to come up anything other from a Mary Wills - 22 Nov 1851 in St Austell.  Could this be them.


Many thanks,
Regards.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: trish1120 on Thursday 16 December 10 12:51 GMT (UK)
Yes that would seem to be the most likely marriage but it has Samuels Father as John not Peter on Cornwall OPC!

To be sure you need to buy Elizabeths Birth Cert which will have her mothers maiden name on it.

Do you have her NZ Death Cert?
It should name both of her Parents if they were known to the informant.
Do you have Elizabeth and Henrys marriage Cert?
The NZ ITM is another way of confirming her Fathers name and occp.

Trish :)
Title: Re: Elizabeth Jane Crowle, England ? to New Zealand
Post by: MCKIN on Saturday 20 January 18 06:11 GMT (UK)
Hi lmsb. Elizabeth Jane Crowle is my g.g.grandmother and i have done the family tree. Would love to hear how you fit into the family.
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