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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: greenman on Monday 13 December 10 19:33 GMT (UK)
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Can anyone help me with the baptism and/or birth of BERTHA WHITTENBURY, daughter of JEREMIAH WHITTENBURY and ELIZABETH (nee Wright.)
Jeremiah and Elizabeth were married in Bakewell parish church, on the 1st of February, 1802. I believe that Bertha was born in 1810 (according to the IGI), and was Jeremiah's third daughter (he had had a previous marriage and was a widower.)
BERTHA married HARTLEY PACKER GISBORNE in the church of St John Deansgate, Manchester in 1832. (The Gisborne family built Yoxall Lodge in Staffordshire.)
Their eldest son, JOHN SACHEVERELL GISBORNE was my great-great-grandfather. (Jeremiah Whittenbury was, I believe, born of non-conformist stock in London. He became a cotton merchant and lived in Manchester.)
Many thanks!
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hi,
Not what you asked for but Jeremiah Whittenbury described as a Cotton Merchant of Brown Street, Manchester in Manchester and Salford Directory of 1800.
Regards
John
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Sorry, still not what you asked for but thought this was worth posting:-
Burial: 21 May 1847 St Thomas, Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Jeremiah Whittenbury -
Age: In his 71st year
Abode: Chorlton upon Medlock
www.lan-opc.org.uk
Luzzu
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One of Bertha's sisters ???:-
Baptisms: 27 Dec 1807 St Peter, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Georgina Whittenbury - Daughter of Jeremiah Whittenbury & Elizabeth
Born: 8 Nov 1807
There are parish registers online for Manchester St Peter but I've just checked and the earliest baptisms are 1860 :(:-
https://beta.familysearch.org/s/collection/show#uri=http://search-api:8080/searchapi/search/collection/1788853&hash=Mrd8SMocDIIen2Q83tu%2B82PRagg%3D
Luzzu
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Still no sign of Bertha but..... in the Manchester Guardian on 12 Jun 1847 there is an advertisement for the auction of "The entire personal and household effects of the late Jerimiah Whittenbury" ..... and then it goes on to list his personal and household effects. I am not sure I can post it here because of copyright but if you send me a PM with your email address I can email a copy back to you.
Luzzu
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Sorry, still not what you asked for but thought this was worth posting:-
Burial: 21 May 1847 St Thomas, Ardwick, Lancashire, England
Jeremiah Whittenbury -
Age: In his 71st year
Abode: Chorlton upon Medlock
www.lan-opc.org.uk
Luzzu
Thank you very much for this - certainly Jeremiah - I have his death certificate (gout, translated to the heart!)
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hi,
Not what you asked for but Jeremiah Whittenbury described as a Cotton Merchant of Brown Street, Manchester in Manchester and Salford Directory of 1800.
Regards
John
Thank you very much indeed, John. Much appreciated.
Happy Christmas and New Year!
Francis
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Hi there.
Details of Bertha's Whittenbury's forebears recorded on the Wright family pedigree that I have in my possession. Please see attached image.
The Wright family tree can be seen in Longstone Records as written by my great grandfather, George Thomas Wright in 1906 as per the link from page 325 onwards.
https://ia804707.us.archive.org/34/items/longstonerecords00wrig/longstonerecords00wrig.pdf
Regards
Hugh
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Dear Hugh,
Many thanks for this! Much appreciated.
I have managed to obtain a rather fine copy of the book you mention, and look forward to
going through it.
All good wishes,
Francis Wright
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Hi Francis,
Good to hear from you. I note you are a Wright too but have yet to work out whether your Wright has its origins from Derbyshire. Searching the family pedigrees is a bit of a tangled web.
There is the marriage of Jeremiah Whittenbury to Elizabeth Wright. Have had a look at your website.
Did not know that it was Jeremiah's second marriage to her. See that there another marriage in the two families for Georgina to James Farewell Wright a cousin.
Rather looks as if I failed to attach an image previously from the pedigree in my possession for Jeremiah Whittenbury to Elizabeth Wright. The other image I took last Thursday at the Derbyshire Record Office for Georgina Whittenbury to James Farewell Wright. There are instances for the Wrights to have married same families several times over! For example the Vernons from Sudbury and Clontarf outside Dublin, three times but no descendants in existence today.
I see you make references to Joseph Wright of Derby's paintings on your website. My parents did try to see if he was related to us either at Great Longstone or Eyam but could not find any proof. I rather think without checking, that he had a similar coat of arms to us.
Have recently come across a very distant cousin, Kaye Strand, in New Zealand. Common ancestor a William Wright in 1603! Her lineage is interesting as she is a descendant of the Bassano family. The first generation of Bassanos in this country were musicians to Henry VIII! Incidentally, Joseph Wright painted at least one member of the Bassano family.
Intriguing, is it not?
Regards
Hugh
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Hello Hugh,
How very nice to get your reply. I am indeed a Wright - on my mother's side of the family - but not a Derbyshire Wright.
Mine were in Hillingdon. They were in Colham Green, very near Hillingdon Hall, which I believe had a Derbyshire Wright connection. The Wrights of Colham Green were apparently market gardeners, and I don't know if there was a Derbyshire connection or not. I would be pleased to think there might be.
My mother married a Czech but I have always used my mother's surname (people can actually pronounce it!)
My mother's mother was a Gisborne, which is where the connections with the Whittenbury family come in. The Gisbornes were mainly 'professional' (lawyers, etc) but they go back a long way and have an interesting history. I am delighted that Joseph Wright of Derby painted the Rev. Thomas Gisborne and his wife, and I look forward to finding his picture of whichever Bassano it happens to be.
Thank you for the Bassano family reference. The historian A.L.Rowse was delighted to have cracked the riddle of Shakespeare's Dark Lady, declaring her to be Emilia di Bassano, who was also a poet at the English Court. Forgive me, you probably know all that - and I don't think there has ever been any conclusive proof!! It's probably yet another influence for 'Shakespeare in Love' ...
Jeremiah Whittenbury's first wife Mary died in 1800, and he married Elizabeth Wright in 1802. They didn't hang around in them days.
And yes, it is all very intriguing. I hope my waffle makes sense.
Many thanks again for contacting me, and do let's keep in touch.
All the very best,
Francis
(Crickhowell, Powys, Wales.
I was in Richmond, SW London for 35 years beforehand!)