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Title: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: nedda on Monday 13 December 10 04:17 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Just wondering if anybody else has had this problem.  We have seen the grave for my 4 x g'grandfather, Thomas Harrold.

When we tried to apply for his death certificate, online it states that there is nothing that exists, have tried contacting VIC BDM, but they are very slow at answering their emails.

So does anybody know how we can find out information?  He is buried in Geelong Cemetery, we did find a Thomas Floyd who was buried there in the same year, we got that certificate just in case, but it's not him.

We are trying to find out when he came to Australia, but have been unable to find him on any immigration records. He has family buried with him. This family is proving very illusive.

Thanks

Nedda
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: sparrett on Monday 13 December 10 04:30 GMT (UK)
Nedda,
Is the name you are searching for Thomas HARROLD?
OR
 Thomas Harrold/Harold Something?

What were his parents' names please.

What year of death is noted at the Cemetery?


Sue
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: tropicalj on Monday 13 December 10 04:31 GMT (UK)
Can you tell us  his full name age and date of death if you know it please?

thanks Jenn
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: Dundee on Monday 13 December 10 04:52 GMT (UK)
There are two:

101123   HARROLD   THOMAS   15 Aug 1855   Geelong Eastern Cemetery   RCHS*1***201   
101125   HARROLD   THOMAS   26 Apr 1889   Geelong Eastern Cemetery   RCHS*1***201

1889
Thos Harold
Geelong, Victoria
Age: 33
Father's name: William
Mother's name: Eliza Devlin
#7589

1855
A possible

Thomas Herold
Victoria
Age: 67
Father's name: Francis
Mother's name: Catherine Spencer
#4876

Debra  :D
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: Raylen on Monday 13 December 10 05:08 GMT (UK)

Also in same grave
HARROLD   MARGARET 14 Dec 1883   Geelong Eastern Cemetery   RCHS*1***201
Couldn't see a death listed as Harrold
but this could be a possible  :o

HANELD  Margaret   1883  age 56years
Death Place: Geelong 
No parents listed
Reg #11169

Raylen
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: majm on Monday 13 December 10 05:50 GMT (UK)
https://beta.familysearch.org/

Indexed as:

T. Harold, male  age 33 date of death 26 Apr 1889 buried at Geelong  :)

Refer to Debra's #3  :)

Cheers,  JM

Edit to Add  also at that link
Thomas Harold, male, age 61, d o d 15 August 1855 buried Geelong, birthplace "from Ireland"
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: nedda on Tuesday 14 December 10 08:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks so much for the replies.

Yes the illusive Thomas Harold we are chasing is the one buried in 1855, being born in Ireland - Armagh we believe.

We have not been able to find much on this family, they are very illusive. You would think a surname like Harold would be easy to get right - NOPE!

VIC BDM have finally come back and said to send in the form with as much information that we have and they will try and search for it. So here's hoping we find something.

Nedda
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: mrwilson on Tuesday 14 December 10 10:01 GMT (UK)
Found a reference to a Walter Harold in Ireland c 1614 .. might be worth going further back to move forward.

http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Harold

My ex father-in-law, who stands proud of his long Irish ancestry , is in reality an ancestor of an English soldier (and wife) posted to Ireland in the middle of the 19th century. Perhaps your Thomas' relatives also came from England, hence their elusiveness.
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: nedda on Wednesday 15 December 10 00:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that mrwilson.

Because we know so little about the family, and irish records are not as accessible as other records we are finding it very difficult to find much on them. All the "paid" sites I am with, have very little information in relation to irish records.

Hopefully if we get this death cert of Thomas's it might shed a little light so that we can delve into the irish research a bit more.

Nedda
Title: Re: No Record of Death Certificate
Post by: michinyon on Monday 20 December 10 16:07 GMT (UK)
If he died in 1855,  you may be out of luck,  because the civil registration in Australia didn't start until 1856.