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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (East Riding & York) => Topic started by: bandits1ock on Thursday 09 December 10 10:11 GMT (UK)
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Whilst i have had immense help from people on this group for which I am grateful I have hit a brick wall and have no idea how to move forward.
Should I now try and get a professional genealogist who may break through the wall.
I would not know how to go about this and costs involved.
Would appreciate any help as I am a long way from Hull where the family lived
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Hi Geoff,
First, don't give up on Rootschat right away. :)
As a newcomer I see an astonishing wealth of knowledge and
research skills displayed every day I visit this site.
I imagine that the details of the problems you are facing are
now spread over a number of your previous posts, so would
respectfully suggest that you pick one problem, and in
a new topic, summarise the problem as clearly as you can, and
include anything you know (have evidence for).
If you have already done this, and waited a reasonable time
for replies, then maybe you should try the professionals.
I have used professional genealogists, and chose them from
family history monthly magazines. I find it is important to
'phone them initially to see if I think that I can get on
with them and that they seem friendly, because I want to
enjoy my hobby.
Rates vary tremendously, you need to discuss that with them.
Some include travel time and costs so you might want to choose
someone near to the relevant record offices.
Fees are usually by the hour, and are payable up front. They
need paying even if the search they are doing for you fails.
Outline your problem to them and ask for an estimate of the
amount of work required. Reputable researchers will normally
suggest no more than two or three hours in the first instance
since they can have no real idea until they make a start.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck with it.
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I contacted a professional genealogist to see if she could help in tracing my elusive g.grandfather and asked her how she would do it. Her reply was that she would look through census and BMDs. As that is what we all can do, I decided not to spend my money.
Also it depends how far back your brick wall is. If it is pre 1837 then there may be records that a professional will be able to check out, parish records etc. but again Rootschatters living in the area where your ancestors lived are always happy to help.
Lizzie
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I doubt that you would find a Pro with access to all the resources that the combined RC members can offer. Or indeed the oft-displayed lateral thinking that gets results.
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I think it depends on the brick wall.
I am confident in my own abilities (not 100% to be sure!) of trawling through the various sites for BMDs and census returns.
Where I have used professional genealogists, I found it to be worth every penny!
1. Railway ancestor. Needed expert knowledge of, and access to, TNA.
2. Dublin records. I am more confident now of Irish records, but it was a good spend at the time.
3. Jersey records. Always worthwhile to seek local knowledge!
My advice would be:
First try forums again! Spell out exactly what you are looking for, and exactly what you know already.
If that fails then contact a professional.
But again state exactly what you need, and what you already know.
Ask what their rates are, and ask for an estimate of the tiime required.
If you decide to go ahead, make it clear what your maximum spend is!!
Good luck!
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I have had 2 specialist researches and both were a total waste of money.
Stick with the forums that are around, much much better :)
Trish :)
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I am most grateful to all who have helped me with this query.
I have decided to stick with the forum which has been of immense help.
I hope within the next couple of years to get to Hull in the hope somewhere there will be the answers
As can be seen from my posts I have hit a brick wall with William Pollard shoemaker who may have been enumerated as Bollard on the 1841 census. Dates and names seem confusing. As posted before I am 99% sure of the William Pollard married to Lang. Its his father that is the problem another William
I dont know how to validate this info either way and how to go back prior to 1841 and thats my problem
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Reprise;
1841 Census;
HO107 Piece:1231 Book/Folio:8/25 Page:4
Stubb's Buildings, Holy Trinity, Kingstonu pon Hull
BOLLARD, William M 35 1806 Yorkshire
BOLLARD, Jane F 35 1806 Yorkshire
BOLLARD, Ann F 15 1826 Yorkshire
BOLLARD, John M 15 1826 Yorkshire
BOLLARD, Maria F 14 1827 Yorkshire
BOLLARD, William M 7 1834 Yorkshire
1851 Census;
HO107 Piece:2361 Folio:467 Page:18
2, Alice Place, Sculcoates, Kingston upon Hull
POLLARD, Jane Head Widow F 52 1799 Laundress
Doncaster, Yorkshire
POLLARD, William Son M 16 1835 Stone Mason (App)
Hull, Yorkshire
Marriage 1855 Hull Regisrer Office to Elizabeth Lang.
1861 Census:
RG09 Piece:3583 Folio:85 Page:25
2, Reed Street, Sculcoates, Kingston upon Hull
POLLARD, William Head Married M 26 1835
Hull, Yorkshire
POLLARD, Elizabeth Wife Married F 24 1837
Hammersmith, Middlesex
POLLARD, William D Son M 5 1856 Scholar
Hull
POLLARD, George F Son M 3 1858 Scholar
Hull
POLLARD, Clara Daughter F 0 (UNDER1M) 1861
Hull
LANG, Mary Mother In Law Widow F 56 1805 Laundress
.., Hampshire
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appreciate the reprise - it puts it down quite clearly. Now to hopefully find out whether the Bollards were the Pollards -- any thoughts from anyone who is vastly more experienced than me a beginner
thanks
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I'm wondering whether anyone has actually seen the 1841 image?
I'm not clear from the above whether this could be an error at the time
of the census, or an indexing error when the information was prepared
for public lookups.
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I have seen the original register entry and to my eyes it looks like Bollard and shoemaker
I have this theory that when the census taker arrived at his doorstep that he had a cold and Pollard sounded like Bollard.
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OK. You may have gone down this route already. We know he died between censuses
whatever his name was, so at FreeBMD:
Search for Type: Deaths Surname: pollard First name(s): william
Start date: Mar 1841 End date: Dec 1851 District: Kingston upon Hull
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
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Deaths Dec 1845 (>99%)
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POLLARD William Hull 22 261
and then:
Search for Type: Deaths Surname: bollard First name(s): william
Start date: Mar 1841 End date: Dec 1851 District: Kingston upon Hull
Sorry, we found no matches.
Looking ok so far, so that death cert could help if the name of
the informant or the address is right. Have you already looked at that one?