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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: ails81 on Wednesday 08 December 10 19:55 GMT (UK)
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hi folks, wonder if someone can help.
I am stuck with a David Sandilands b. 8/12/1833 in Abernethy Perth, he was a joiner, married Christina McDiarmid 21 Aug 1857 in Dundee. I can find them up till the 1871 census and then he disappears. I can find Christina and 4 of their children in the 1881 census but then nothing. So I cant find David or Christina's death certificates. I also cant find their childrens death certificates - Margaret b1859, John b1861, Catherine b1863, David b1865 Christina b1867 or Peter b1870.
This made me think perhaps they had all emigrated, albeit David earlier than the family but I cant find any of them on the passenger lists I have looked at (although finding emigration records is not something I am very confident with).
Any help very welcome, I am trying to get as much detail about the Sandilands family as possible and these ones have got me stuck, I just love the surname!! :D
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2 possible marriages
1 1890 OGILVIE ALEXANDER and SANDILANDS CATHERINE at ST CLEMENT DUNDEE CITY/ANGUS
2 1881 SINCLAIR JOHN ELDER and SANDILANDS MARGARET at MONIFIETH /ANGUS
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thank you Sancti! The margaret sandilands marriage is correct, but still cant find her death certificate. There is a match for the couple in the 1891 english census but cant find a death in the english records either. I will work on it.
That catherine marriage isnt the right one - onwards and upwards :)
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What was John Sinclairs occupation on his marriage certificate?
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hi sancti
I think on the marriage cert it says he was a machine fitter living in Stirling at the time. Both his parents were still alive at the time as were hers. In fact her father David Sandilands was a master joiner so might see if I can find any trace of hime through that route? :-\
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following that I checked the 1891 english census that may have been them and John Sinclair is a tailor so I dont think thats them. back to the hunt! :D
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Hi Ails,
There's another rootschatter who's researching Sandilands from Abernethy here:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,165563.0.html
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wendyladd17
Re: Looking for Sandilands family, Fife
Per 1901 census I have a George Sandilands 1859 Abernethy, Perth married to Betsy Sandilands bn 1857 in Auchterderran, Fife. There son George 1894 bn in Kirkcaldy married my great aunt Chritina Isobel Page. "
Just to confuse the issue, I have Davidson's from Abernethy and Sandiland's from Rhynd, Perthshire,
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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thanks jimmijam, these Sandilands sure get about! I have a heap of Davidsons as well on the other side of my family but their from Ross and Cromarty area! I get myself so confused with who's who and where they belong :o
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Hi Ails,
This may just be your lucky night! I've got some more for you. I hope you've got some time off over Christmas to tie this lot together.
Some interested individuals have amassed a partial database, available on line about Abernethy Graveyard. I quote, "In 2005 Bill Drever accompanied by J Kennedy, both inhabitants of Abernethy, Perthshire, conducted a research project to survey the graveyard."
These records are available to view online, but sadly the website appears to be corrupted, meaning that you have to search stone by stone. Having done this before, I knew I'd come across this surname.
What I'll need to do is split this over several posts, as I believe we're limited here. Happy reading...
Stone Number
49
IN
LOVING MEMORY
OF
MARY SANDILANDS
WHO DIED 17TH JULY 1954
AGED 89 YEARS
AND OF HER HUSBAND
DAVID BAIRD
OF BLOOMFIELD, ABERNETHY
WHO DIED 19TH AUGUST 1954
AGED 87 YEARS
AND THEIR FAMILY
HELEN 1898 - 1995
MARY 1901 - 1979
DAVID 1904 - 1978
MARGARET 1906 - 1994
http://www.eaterclunie.co.uk/Graveyard/Inscriptions.asp?index=48
Stone Number
50
S
IN LOVING MEMORY OF
ROBERT SANDILANDS
WHO DIED 30TH JULY 1937
AGED 64 YEARS
OF SOUTHFIELD, ABERNETHY
AND HIS WIFE
JANET BLACK SCRIMGEOUR
WHO DIED 16TH JULY 1957
AGED 83 YEARS
http://www.eaterclunie.co.uk/Graveyard/Inscriptions.asp?index=49
Stone Number
51
IN
EVER LOVING MEMORY
OF
ALEXANDER M. SANDILANDS
OF MARYLEA
BELOVED HUSBAND OF
MARY MORRISON
WHO DIED 26TH NOVEMBER 1935
AGED 66 YEARS
THE ABOVE
MARY MORRISON
DIED 28TH JUNE 1942
AGED 67 YEARS
THE PEACE OF GOD WHICH
PASSETH ALL UNDERSTANDING
http://www.eaterclunie.co.uk/Graveyard/Inscriptions.asp?index=50
More to come!
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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Hi Ails,
Here's the others!
Stone Number
76
S
IN
LOVING MEMORY OF
OUR DEAR
FATHER AND MOTHER
JOHN SANDILANDS
DIED 6TH FEB 1926
AGED 75
JANET CRUIKSHANKS
DIED 22ND JUNE 1931
AGED 84
ALSO THEIR CHILDREN
MARY ANN MARGARET
& JAMES
JANET
DIED 28TH AUGUST 1960
& CATHERINE
DIED 22ND DEC. 1968
http://www.eaterclunie.co.uk/Graveyard/Inscriptions.asp?index=75
Stone Number Inscription
77 ERECTED
BY THE FAMILY IN LOVING
MEMORY OF THEIR DEAR MOTHER
ELLEN COOK SANDILANDS
WHO DIED 2ND DECR 1901
AGED 71 YEARS
ALSO THEIR SISTERS
JANE DEWAR SANDILANDS
DIED 30TH MAY 1883
AGED 7 YEARS
ELLEN COOK SANDILANDS
DIED 16TH APRIL 1878
AGED 11 YEARS
ALSO THEIR FATHER
JOHN SANDILANDS
WHO DIED 23RD AUGUST 1913
AGED 87 YEARS
ALSO THEIR SISTER
MARGARET SANDILANDS
WHO DIED 14TH MAY 1951
AGED 90 YEARS
"WE FEEBLY STRUGGLE, THEY IN GLORY SHINE"
http://www.eaterclunie.co.uk/Graveyard/Inscriptions.asp?index=76
Stone Number
232
IN
LOVING MEMORY
OF
JOHN SANDILANDS
WHO DIED 8TH OCTOBER 1913
AGED 22YEARS
A TOKEN OF RESPECT
FROM HIS FELLOW WORKERS
IN STRATHEARN WORKS
ABERNETHY
http://www.eaterclunie.co.uk/Graveyard/Inscriptions.asp?index=231
Best wishes, Jimmijam
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fabulous thanks jimmijam! Print all this off I think and go and have a wee sit down and a read and try to figure out if and how these people all fit together.
And I will find what happened to bleeding David Sandilands if its the end of me! ;)
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Delighted to help!
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Ails,
There is someone on Borders FHS researching Sandilands the link can be found under Selkirk. I have Sandilands from Fife in my tree and also on Genes there is a Michael Sandilands researching his tree and because of our connection through two marriages, I have contact with him and can send a message to him if you wish, but how am i going to connect the two of you together so you can talk, thats the question
marcie
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Hello
I hope I can help with your David Sandilands!
His wife Christina and four of the children (Catherine, David, Christina and Peter) emigrated to New Zealand on the Jessie Readman, departing Glasgow on 15 July 1881 and arriving at Port Chalmers (Dunedin, NZ) on 25 October. I have found some information on the four children - marriages, their children etc, but this is still a work in progress for me!
My husband is descended from the youngest son, Peter, who was a bandmaster even though he was deaf. He moved to Tasmania, Australia then to NSW, Australia.
I've not yet found David in any shipping records, but assume that he had already moved to NZ before the 1881 Census. David died at Oamaru, New Zealand on 5 August, 1911, aged 79. I only just found the newspaper report last night!
His wife Christina died at Oamaru on 12 Mar, 1913. I have her death certificate.
I am holidaying in NZ next month, so will have a quick look to see if I can find anything else while I'm there.
Kind regards
Nola
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Hi,
I just spotted this post :)
My husband is connected to the Sandilands of Fife and back to Abernethy! His Grandmother was Christina Adamson Sandilands (1889 - 1974) and she married James Bain (1890-1976). Her Grandfather was her first ancestor from Abernethy John Sandilands (1823-1869).
Kind regards,
Carolineasb