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I have found a great uncle in the 1911 census as an inmate at Maidstone prison, Kent. How do I go about finding his records or court documents for that prison?
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SunshieOz
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hello & welcome
I think you'll find the Prison records are subject to the 100 year rule & won't be viewable until 2011.
The event may have been reported on in the local paper,back copies are normally kept by the local records office but you would need to go there & search them.
jim
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Hi, if you know where he may have lived-maybe 1901 census gives a lead?- then you could try searching online the local newspaper for his area to see if there is any article therein that conatins his name.
That might give you some info. Local papers often carry news of locals... but do you know where he lived when sentenced?
there's no guarantee this would work but I'm casting around for ideas ::)
charlotte
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I forgot to say welcome to rootschat ???... sorry
charlotte
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Thank you both for your welcome & input.
In 1891 census he is in Birmingham but I can't find him in 1901. Are newspaper archives available online as I live in Austalia?
SunshineOz :)
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Give us his name,occupation,age & family from 1891.
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the 1891 census ref.no.(RG12/piece ?/folio ?/page ?) & we'll try & find him.
jim
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hello sunshineoz
and welcome as jim has said regarding the 100 year rule you,ve not got too long to wait also have a look at www.blacksheepancestors.com/uk/prisons they have some old records online not what you want but worth a read anyhow
best of luck
trevor
ps sorry about the cricket ;) but isn,t it about time your selectors got rid of ricky ponting ::)
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Thanks for that.
Here is his 1891 census info. Correct spelling is Wilmot, middle name Dinwoody
1891 census - household transcription
Person: WILMOTT, Hubert
Address: 29, Vyse Street, Birmingham
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
WILMOTT, Bernard Head Single M 26 1865 Manufacturing Jeweller Handsworth Staffordshire
RG number:RG12 Piece:2395 Folio:22 Page:38
Registration District:Birmingham Sub District:All Saints Enumeration District:1 Ecclesiastical Parish:St Paul
Civil Parish:Birmingham Municipal Borough:Birmingham
Address:29, Vyse Street, Birmingham County:Warwickshire
Trevor, I know nothing about the cricket but my husband agrees with you!
;D
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This appears to be them in 1901 mistranscribed as Willimon.
RG13; Piece: 2886; Folio: 122; Page: 30.
doing a free search in 1911 the family are in Rugby with 3 more children:
Winifred Catherine/1905/Rugby
Harold Eardley/1908/do
Margaret Alice/1909/do
Hubert has the middle name of Edgington & appears to be the son of Edward Dinwoody Wilmot & Phoebe Charlotte Freeman.Is this your family?
They appear on all the censuses.
let me know if you want any of it.
jim
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Thanks Jim, yes that is my family & I do have all the census but Bernard isn't with the family in 1901, you wouldn't beleive the spellings I have found for Wilmot!!!
The story has it that Bernard borrowed money from his brother, Hubert to invest in a rubber plantation in Malaya & lost all the money. Their father died in 1884 leaving them all a lot of money so I'm guessing that what ever Bernard was in prison for was to do with someone elses money going astray.....would really love to find out :o
SunshineOz
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you didn't say which Wilmot you had in prison in 1911.I assumed it was Hubert as his was the first name you put up.
Give us his name,occupation,age & family from 1891.
Person: WILMOTT, Hubert
I thought you must have had a different one as he appears in Rugby in 1911.
So we're looking for Bernard.
jim
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Sorry Jim, yes it is Bernard Dinwoody Wilmot that I am looking for in 1901.
1911 he is in Maidstone Prison, Kent.
:-[
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Hi,
Just a possibility, I wonder if this is Bernard on a passenger list,
Ship: Ballarat
Departure: 28 December 1899, London
Bound: Calcutta, India
Mr WILMOT
Gent, English, Single, Male
Passenger destination port: Colombo, Sri Lanka (Ceylon)
part of his journey to Malaya?
I also found this incoming passenger which I thought a serious possibility considering he is travelling with a Mrs EARDLY, the same name as his nephew Harold's middle name.
Ship: Himalaya
From: Calcutta
Arrival: 20 Apr 1909, London
Embarked: Colombo
Landed: Plymouth
on the same line WILMOT Mr & Mrs EARDLY
1st Class
English
oddly they are marked in the accompanied by husband or wife column.
Where does the EARDLY name come from?
Regards,
Daisy
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Oh maybe not him, I've googled and there seems to be alot of EARDLEY/EARDLY WILMOTs about :D
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Details about Bernard Dinwoody Wilmot's crime and punishment can be found here:
https://www.saund.org.uk/britbase/pgn/190408bcf-viewer.html#wilmot