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Title: cunningham smith downpatrick
Post by: fifer56 on Monday 13 April 09 20:31 BST (UK)

my ggg grandfather michael cunningham was born in ireland in 1824  and was married to elizabeth smith born in ireland in 1826 and they moved to lanarkshire scotland. i believe michaels parents were walter (born approx 1800) and jessie syme

somebody has discoverd from emerald ancesters that there was a marriage on 01/03/1847 at downpatrick civil registars. can anybody help verify this was them and if possible any more information ?

anyhelp would be appreciated

thanks norrie

Title: Re: cunningham help required
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 13 April 09 20:40 BST (UK)

Here's a link to your post (Ireland-General):
www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=422609.new#new

You can order the marriage certificate to get the full details: date and place of marriage, names residences and occupations of bride and groom, whether or not of full age, marital status, fathers' names and occupations, names of two witnesses, name of officiant.

IGI (www.familysearch.org) has the marriage listed but only gives bride's name, groom's name, date and place 'Ireland'.

Title: Re: cunningham help required
Post by: OTTO on Monday 13 April 09 21:06 BST (UK)

Quote from: fifer56 on Monday 13 April 09 20:31 BST (UK)

my ggg grandfather michael cunningham was born in ireland in 1824  and was married to elizabeth smith born in ireland in 1826 and they moved to lanarkshire scotland. i believe michaels parents were walter (born approx 1800) and jessie syme

somebody has discoverd from emerald ancesters that there was a marriage on 01/03/1847 at downpatrick civil registars. can anybody help verify this was them and if possible any more information ?

anyhelp would be appreciated

thanks norrie

The marriage at emerald was at Downpatricks Registrars Office on 1st March 1847.

When I searched for the marriage at ancestryireland, it gives Michael's fathers name as Andrew, and Elizabeth's father as Robert.

ancestryireland will charge £4.00 for the full details available.

OTTO


 SMITH ELIZABETH 1847 ROBERT Down
 CUNNINGHAM MICHAEL 1847 ANDREW Down

Title: cunningham smith downpatrick
Post by: fifer56 on Monday 06 December 10 20:02 GMT (UK)

posted previously regarding my ggg grandparents Michael cunningham and Elizabeth smith who were married 1847 in down patrick. i have since found out that Michael lived at struell in down, and his father was Andrew cunningham a weaver. Elizabeth's father was a merchant and lived in down patrick

can anybody tell me where struell is ?, provide any information on the family's ?

any information would be greatly appreciated

thanks

Norrie

Title: Re: cunningham smith downpatrick
Post by: kingskerswell on Monday 06 December 10 20:15 GMT (UK)

Norrie,
          Struell is a townland ( a small administrative area) just east if the town of Downpatrick.

Regards

Title: Re: cunningham smith downpatrick
Post by: fifer56 on Wednesday 15 December 10 21:37 GMT (UK)

thanks for that is anybody looking into families from that area as trying to build up a picture of what life was like for the cunningham and smith families at this time

thanks

norrie

Title: Re: cunningham smith downpatrick
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Friday 17 December 10 20:43 GMT (UK)

look up struel on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/

Title: Re: cunningham smith downpatrick
Post by: fifer56 on Monday 20 December 10 19:35 GMT (UK)

thanks   already came across that bit of info

norrie

Title: Re: cunningham smith downpatrick
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Tuesday 21 December 10 08:01 GMT (UK)

they had left struel by 1863 see www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=doNameSearch&familyname=&firstname=&offset=20&countyname=&parishname=&parishname&unionname=&baronyname=&totalrows=39&PlaceID=431457&wildcard=
one or two of the properties are marked vacant, all the properties are also marked out on a map of this time, there is an earlier os 6"map about 1830s.

there are manuscript family trees for example CUNNINGHAM in the following vulumes   1p130 Church Hill, 14p209, 15p45, 24p28 Macedon, 52 Down Armagh, 54. in the Blackwood Family history manuscript trees in the LinenHall library, Belfast.  volume 52 might be best possible. I suggest you ask them for photocopying estimates if they think your knowledge relevant and you should be prepared to pay a fee for copying, post and packing, and perhaps some staff time and overheads. However if the material is really relevant when you get it, I suggest a further donation to this unique library that is always needing extra funds .. Linen Hall Library,17 Donegall Square North, Belfast BT15GB, Northern Ireland, Telephone: +44 (0)28 9032 1707,  Fax: +44 (0)28 9043 8586, Email: <irish.reference[at]linenhall.com>.replace the [AT] with the symbol please
they also have
SMITH in volumes 17N Maxwell, 20N, 23, 52 Belfast, 86 Saul Co Down
SMYTH in volumes 7p27 Deerpark, 14p78, 16p192 Deerpark, 21, 27N, 33 Johnson-Smyth
 
good luck

Title: Re: cunningham smith downpatrick
Post by: fifer56 on Tuesday 21 December 10 19:40 GMT (UK)

thanks for all that info sounds like the place is full of information

many thanks

Norrie

ps would you go along with theory they left ireland after there marriage in 1847 due to irish famine or the fact that local mill shut down ?