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Hello everyone, Re Parents of Margaret Farrow, born abt 1838 Yorkshire, died 1894 Ont., Canada
I am researching the Farrow family of Rosedale Yorkshire. I have Christopher Farrow (1818 - 1895) married to Mary Hodgson (1821 - 1905) in 1845. They came to Canada in 1845 and had several children there.
My "family history" says Margaret is the daughter of Christopher and Mary. The 1861 and 1871 Canadian censuses have Margaret Farrow born 1837/1838 living with Christopher and Mary. She is also buried with them. She died in August 1894, aged 55. (so born in 1839).
Is Margaret really is the daughter of Christopher and Mary? She was born several years before they were married. Genuki Rosedale (excellent resource for this family) has no record of a prior marriage for Christopher and no record of Margaret's birth. The Canadian censuses don't list relationships. Her death record doesn't list her parents. She never married, so I can't check marriage records for information about her parents. I don't see her on the 1841 England census.
I am stumped. Does anyone have any ideas where I should go from here?
Thanks
RK
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I don't suppose she could be a niece?
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could she have been born Margaret Hodgson?
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Hi RK,
Welcome to RootsChat !! :) :)
could she have been born Margaret Hodgson?
I was wondering about that too excel - I checked Margaret Hodgson - there was a child registered by that name. Problem being - there was also a possible match in 1841 - living with what looked like her parents.
Birth, Mar. qtr. 1838
Margaret Hodgson
Pickering, Vol 24, page 355
Pels.
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Hi Excel and Pels.
Thanks for the suggestions. Margaret could well be a niece or another relative on the Farrow side. But why would she go to Canada with Christopher and his wife? It would only make sense if her parents were dead. According to my information, none of Christopher's brothers died leaving a young daughter Margaret. These are Christopher's parents and siblings- John Farrow (1765-1848) m. Elizabeth Featherstone (1755-1802) Children: John b.1789; William b. 1790; Barbara b. 1794 and Mary b 1797. John m2 Mary Gibson (1783-1826). Children Elizabeth b. 1809; Martha b. 1811; Thomas and Edward b. 1813, and Christopher b. 1818.
The niece idea may still work. Perhaps Margaret is the daughter of one of Christopher's sisters?? There is no Margaret born in 1837-1839 on the Genuki Rosedale Parish index, but she could have been born elsewhere - if she was "illegitimate"???
The same could be true if she were Mary Hodgson's daughter. She might have been born outside of the parish.
If she were a Hodgson niece or cousin, wouldn't she have kept the Hodgson name?? Margaret is always called Margaret Farrow.
I still have a mystery on my hands, but I am a bit less confused. You have given given me some more ideas to work on.
Thanks.
I seem to have inadvertently added an emoticon to my text and I don't know how to remove it. OOPS
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I don't know if you have seen this entry on the IGI which is about the right time in the right area
MARGARET FARROW
Christening: 11 NOV 1840 Rosedale, Yorkshire, England
Parents:
Mother: ANN FARROW Family
Extracted birth or christening record
Source Information: Batch No.: C040583
NB There is no father shown on the baptism. When did the family go to Canada ?
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Could this be the birth and death registration for that Margaret, David ?
Birth, Dec. qtr 1840
Margaret Farrow
Pickering, Vol 24, page 431
Death, Dec. qtr 1840
Margaret Farrow
Pickering, Vol 24, page 281
It always makes me sad to see this.
Pels.
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Hi Davidft and Pels,
Yes, I did see that entry for Margaret Farrow christened in Nov, 1840. According to the parish records on Genuki Rosedale, that Margaret only lived for a few days and was buried on Nov 17 th 1840. I agree - it is sad to see records like that.
To answer your question David, the family came to Canada in 1845.
Thanks for your help,
RK
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I'm sorry, another long shot, but no harm in asking - do you know who Mary's parents were, have you checked who, if anyone was staying with them in 1841 ?
Pels.
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Hi,
Longshots are great. Sometimes they hit the target! I have just been looking through some 1841 census records with your suggestions in mind.
I know that Mary Hodgson's father was William Hodgson. Mary and Christopher Farrow were married in Middleton. Mary and her father's addresses are given as Marton. Christopher was living in Rosedale. Mary was working as a servant when she was married, so she would not have lived with her parents. There are MANY Mary Hodgsons on the 1841 census who were born about 1820 and are working in that part of Yorkshire as female servants. I have no way of knowing for sure which one is the Mary in question. I haven't found any with a young child.
As for her parents, I have been told that Mary's mother was also Mary, though I have not verified this for myself. I have a few possiblities for this family, but none (so far) show a Margaret Hodgson of that age living with a William old enough to be her grandfather.
I feel that it is more probable that Margaret is either Mary's daughter or is a Farrow niece - as she used the name Farrow. However, probable is not always right and your Hodgson ideas are certainly worth pursuing further. I will keep at it and see if I find anything in that direction. Margaret is still posing quite a mystery!
Thanks for the suggestions. RK
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Intresting comments by all.
My Grandmother was Glady's Christie. Her Great Grandmother was Mary Hodgson who married Christopher Farrow. We have an old chest with a note in it from my grandmother that says it was the original property of John Farrows mother and that it came over from England in 1846 i n a sail boat (10weeks). Boat landed July 16, 1846. It then says G or J Farrow born July 17, 1846.
I take it she is talking about John Farrow being born just after they landed. I have John Farrows DOB as July 17, 1845 but I do not have a source to confirm his birth date. Anyone else?
Cheers
Stephen Hall
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Hi Stephen,
Nice to talk to you again cousin!! There are a few sources for John's date of birth. Unfortunately, the year isn't always the same. His tombstone in Sunderland (Ontario) says "In Memory of John Farrow born July 17 1846, died Oct 15, 1918".
The 1901 census says he was born July 17 1845. The 1911 census says he was born in July 1845. His death record says that he was 73 years old when he died in October of 1918, so that would mean a birth year of 1845. On his marriage registration (March 24 1874), he says he is 27. That would mean a birth year of 1846 (because his birthday is in July)!!
I am sure that the July 17 day is correct, but the year could be either 1845 or 1846. I assume that his wife and/or children gave the information for the tombstone inscription, so they thought the correct year was 1846.
My grandmother always told me that John was born "a few days after" the family arrived in Canada, and that the ocean voyage took almost 3 months. In all records, John says he was born in Ontario - so the family would have had to make their way to Ontario from wherever they landed (the Maritimes or Quebec or USA) before he was born.
RK :)
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Hi again,
Looking at the 1845 v 1846 question, I have put 1845 as the "preferred" year on my tree, with 1846 as an alternate. The census records which say 1845 would have come from John himself. Also, I have looked at other sources of information to see if there are any other references to the year that the family settled in Ontario.
In the book The Green Pastures of Old Brock, by Jack A Gordon, there is a list of some early settlers. It says John Farrow, farmer, was born in Canada and settled in Brock County in 1845. (page 177)
Also, the Canadian County Atlas project says 1845
http://digital.library.mcgill.ca/countyatlas/showrecord.php?PersonID=110024
RK
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Hi once more,
Just to let you know, I also checked the Wesleyan Methodist Baptismal Register online and I didn't see him there. His brother Christopher and sister Sarah Jane are listed though. The register has records from 1843, so I had hoped he might be on there.
I only checked the free online version.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wjmartin/wm-f_8.htm
Perhaps it might be worth looking in the actual books??
http://www.torontopubliclibrary.ca/search.jsp?Ntt=Wesleyan+Methodist++Baptismal+Register+
RK