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Title: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: Butlerclan on Tuesday 12 April 05 20:26 BST (UK)
Please could anyone help me to track down William Bradshaw and wife Sarah at the above address.    I have actually been to Belfast twice to look at the films in the PRONI, but had no success in finding the street.   When Mary Ann Campbell Bradshaw, my husband's mother was born in July 1902 that was her birth place. It was Urban District No 3, of Belfast.

Thank you in anticipation.

Butlerclan
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: Anthony on Thursday 14 April 05 20:47 BST (UK)
Hi. 1896 Belfast Samuel Campbell Labourer 123 Upper Malven St

1900 there is about 15 Samuel Campbell's living in Belfast.

I could e-mail you all the Campbell & Bradshaw names from my 1896 & 1900 Belfast Street Directories if you would like to send me your e-mail address please.

                                                                    Anthony
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 17 April 05 00:56 BST (UK)
Hello,

The 1861 Directory mentions Malvern Street, off Shankill Road, formerly McAllen's Place.
It does not mention any residents - it just states that there were twenty small houses

http://www.failteromhat.com Griffiths Valuation of Ireland Index Extracts 1848-1864
Co. Antrim Shankill A - F (head of household only) mentions several Bradshaw families but makes no mention of Malvern Street

Best Wishes,

Christopher





Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: Butlerclan on Saturday 23 April 05 18:50 BST (UK)
Thank you Christopher and Anthony for your response to my message regarding Upper Malvern Street, and Bradshaw/Campbell families.     It was interesting to see that Samuel Campbell lived at 123 as my husband's mother was born at 122, but I couldn't find the street on the 1901 Census despite there being a Street Index in the PRONI.  I don't know what connection there is to Campbells at this stage.  Adams was the maiden name of her mother, but I am sure there is going to be a connection.

Regards Butlerclan
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: OTTO on Saturday 30 April 05 21:53 BST (UK)
Hi there,
            Upper Malvern Street is in Court Ward ;

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jeanmccarthy36/census_street_court.htm

OTTO
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: bradshawj on Wednesday 11 April 12 16:23 BST (UK)
Hello Butlerclan,

On 06 November 1893, William John Bradshaw married Sarah Adams at St. Anne's Parish Church, Belfast.

On 27 July 1902, Mary Anne Campbell Bradshaw was born at 122 Upper Malvern Street, Shankill Road, Belfast.  Malvern St no longer exists, although it can be found on old Belfast maps.

William John Bradshaw was the 7th child of James Bradshaw and Margaret Jane Purvis.  James Bradshaw was the son of Samuel Bradshaw.

additional information can be found on web-site www.bradshaw-ulster.co.uk

click -  Family Groups

click - James Bradshaw & Margaret Jane Purvis

regards

Jim Bradshaw
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: Butlerclan on Sunday 03 June 12 17:17 BST (UK)
Hello Jim

Only just seen your reply to my ancient message, and many thanks for the web-site.  I hadn't realised James & Margaret had had seven children.  I am only just revisiting my Butler family after several years because I had come up against brick walls, which happily appear to be crumbling at last.

Thank you
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: Butlerclan on Sunday 03 June 12 17:55 BST (UK)
Jim

Further reply, in case you are responsible for the web-site, which I have found fascinating, Sarah, William Bradshaw's wife and mother of my mother-in-law Mary Ann Campbell Bradshaw, passed away on the 10th August 1902 following the birth of Mary.   She died of what was often a common complaint following child-birth, puerperal fever.   
Butlerclan
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: Butlerclan on Monday 04 June 12 07:52 BST (UK)
Reply to Anthony from way back.   You kindly mentioned that a Campbell family were living next door to where my mother in law, Mary Ann Campbell Bradshaw was born in 1902.  At the time of your offer re Campbells I didn't think there could be any connection, but I have been thinking about the circumstances of Mary Ann's birth and the death a week or so later of her mother, and think that maybe the woman of the Campbell household may have looked after Mary Ann as her mother was sick, and in gratitude her father may have added Campbell to her Christian names.  What do you think of that?

It could be that Anthony no longer subscribes to Rootschat, but I hope these thoughts might be of interest to someone in any case.

Regards Butlerclan
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: jimchelsea on Tuesday 19 June 12 13:01 BST (UK)
Hi
just a point of interest regarding house numbers, the odd numbers were on one side of the street and the even numbers on the other side , so 122 and 123 Upper Malvern St wouldnt have been next door to each other,they would have been opposite each other
jim


have you found the street on the 1901 census?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Court_Ward/Upper_Malvern_Street/
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: taramcdsmall on Tuesday 19 June 12 13:29 BST (UK)
This looks like the family in 1901 - they obviously moved to Malvern Street between the census being taken and the birth of Mary Anne.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/St__George_s_Ward_Belfast/Boyne_Square/954623/

This looks like Mary Anne in 1911 living with her mother's family

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Shankill/Oakley_Street/172214/

Tara
Title: Re: 1901 Census Upper Malven St. Belfast
Post by: Butlerclan on Thursday 21 June 12 18:23 BST (UK)
jimchelsea

I did find them on the Census. They were living somewhere else (can't remember off the top of my head) and moved to Upper Malvern St by the time of Mary Ann's birth.  So I can finish this thread if you like.  And thank you so much for taking the trouble to respond.
Butlerclan