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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Topic started by: EmmieG on Monday 29 November 10 16:58 GMT (UK)
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Hi all, I am new, so please bear with me if I do things wrong.
I am looking for the decendents of FRED HARRIS. He had a son called CLEMENT. Clement had a daughter called LILLY and Lilly married the UK boxer Leonard Horace Smith (Len Tiger Smith) in August 1934 in Birmingham.
Len and Lilly had a daughter - my mother - called Mary Elizabeth - born on the 12th April 1935 and was brought to South Africa around 1937 where they then lived, my mother met my dad, got married and had six children.
PLEASE, ANY PERSON RELATED TO FRED HARRIS, HIS SIBLINGS, CHILDREN ect, would like to know about you. :'(
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat
I don't have any connection but wondered if this is the right family on the 1901 census for Sowerby Bridge Yorkshire, All b Sowerby Bridge
22 Industrial Rd
Fred Harris 35 woollen finisher
Emily 28
Milton 12
Clement 9
John 6
Ellen 7
Maud 4
Annie 2
RG13 Piece 4132 Folio 34 Page 20
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Are you a member of GenesReunited? Someone called Peter has the Clement born Sowerby that CaroleW found in their tree.
Clement's mother's maiden name was Emily Buckley and her mother was Helen.
Did you know that Clement was a blacksmith at one stage?
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Hi again
Clement married in Halifax Yorkshire in 1912 to Ethel Bottomley and their daughter Lilian was born in Halifax in 1913
Births June qtr 1913
Lilian Harris mmn Bottomley Halifax 9a 704
Brother Milton married Emily Harewood in Halifax in 1911
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Using only the free 1911 index shows no more children born after 1901
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Hi, this is the family..... THANK YOU SO MUCH! I live in South Africa and am clueless as to how to search for the Harris and Bottomley (as well as Buckly) families that belong to me. Should you come accross ANY information whatsoever, would you please forward it to me??? Found that every time I come accross information that may be of value - it takes me to a window that is blocked and I get no further..........
My mother have never met any of them as she was about 2 years old when she came to South Africa and her mother (Lilian) apparently died when she was 23.
I dearly want to trace Mom's family as she is now 76 years old and do not have a lifetime to search.
Tears are flowing as I am so happy - this is the family as Helen Buckley was Mom grandmother!
I PRAY THAT I WILL BE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RECEIVE FURTHER INFORMATION, THANKS AGAIN!!!!! :) :) :) :) :)
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Hi,
Free BMD
Marriages Jun 1888
Buckley Emily Halifax 9a 710
Harris Fred Halifax 9a 710
Sharon
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Some slight changes in birthplace for the 1891 census, I think Emily should be 19 rather than 17 given they had been married almost 3yrs by 1891 but image shows 17
Fred Harris 24 b Skircoat Yorks - blanket finisher
Emily 17 b Sowerby Bridge
Milton 2 b Warley
RG12 Piece 3599 Folio 132 Page 40
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You will find Emily on the 1881 census which is free at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=census/search_census.asp
Parents were John & Ellen (Helen)
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Hi
Unfortunately - there are too many Ethel Bottomley entries on the 1901 census which may be her so you would need to buy a copy of that 1912 marriage cert to find her age and her fathers name to be able to pinpoint the right one
The reference is March quarter 1912 Halifax Volume 9a Page 704 and you can order online at
www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
The cost is £9.25 GBP
You will already know from the birthyears that all of Clements siblings will now be deceased so you are dependant on finding their children/grandchildren.
His brother Milton died in 1957 in Halifax
Like your mum - any descendants who may be living will be quite elderly and it is against Rootschat policy for us to post details of any person who could still be alive
Any info we find that may help you to contact living relatives will have to be conveyed via the pm system
I would strongly recommend you check the Genes Reunited entry found by Crisane as that may sort a lot of info for you
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Clement served in the Yorkshire Light Infantry in WW1
I am sending you a pm
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Most thankfull for the info - I am sure that I will be able to trace more ancestors with the thread you have given me. I can't express my most sincere appreciation.
Kind regards,
Emmie
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Have you seen this link
http://forum.birminghamhistory.co.uk/showthread.php?p=130015#poststop
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Milton was a volunteer in the West Riding 4th Bat before signing up as a regular soldier in 1915.
If you don't have a subscription to a pay site ancestry offer a 2 week trial period which will allow you to access these records.
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Milton & his wife had 2 sons - both deceased
Raymond b 11.7.1915 and died 1980
Stanley b 24.7.1920 died 1995
All events in Halifax Yorkshire
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Wow, you made magic, I am so happy that one of them have been traced with their offspring, thanks a mil, appreciated!
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I have sent you a pm with some further info re: Raymond & Stanley but it's not possible to get any further at the moment in view of the numerous Harris entries
You need the death cert I have recommended but even then - it may not yield the result you are looking for in view of the years that have passed since those deaths