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Title: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: davymcb on Saturday 27 November 10 12:46 GMT (UK)
my father john mcbay came from johnshaven he was born on 25/2/1925 his father was a tailor who moved to paisley where we now live i am looking for any information about the mcbay family line as i am looking to start a family tree
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 27 November 10 17:45 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

The 1901 is the last searchable online census for Scotland so we need enough info to search that census and earlier ones for your ancestors

Your fathers birth cert will give his parents names and mothers maiden name - we need that info

If you have a copy of your grandparents marriage cert - please tell us all the info on it - especially their ages and their parents names
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: flst on Saturday 27 November 10 21:44 GMT (UK)
Welcome to rootschat! I had a quick search for any male McBays who might fit the bill. I only found 2 in the 1901 census.
George D.McBey,born circa 1880, in Johnshaven, was a tailor & was a boarder in Govan, - (24 Batson Street.)
John McBay was born in Kincardineshire circa 1884, an apprentice tailor, & living with a large McBay family in Mid Street, Benholm. His parents were Edward & Georgina McBay.
Hope this information will help!
Regards,
flst
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: sancti on Sunday 28 November 10 00:23 GMT (UK)
Also on 1901 census

Alexander Mcbay

 born: abt 1878 at Johnstone, ??? Forfarshire

Occupation: Tailor Journeyman

Residing with the Clark family at

Address: 9 Royal St Inverkip Gourock Renfrewshire
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: davymcb on Monday 29 November 10 11:10 GMT (UK)
hi and thanks for your help, i am getting a copy of my fathers birth cetificate and my grandfathers death certificate,once i have these i will post dates and names and maybe we will be able to come up with some relatives i did,nt know about.regards david mcbay
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: flst on Monday 29 November 10 12:46 GMT (UK)
Scotlandspeople is the best place to obtain copies of certificates. You can view the info on the web rather than purchase a paper one at greater expense.If you get your grandparent's marriage certificate you'll get more information for your money than just ordering your grandfather's death certificate. Obviously you'll need to see your father's birth certificate first to confirm his parents names! There's loads of folk on this site more than willing to assist you with your research.
Regards,
flst
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: bleckie on Monday 29 November 10 13:09 GMT (UK)
Hi All

Courtesy of freecen 1841 census

Surname   First name(s)   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks   
    MCBAY   Edward   M   35   Fisherman    Kincardineshire       
    MCBAY   Bell   F   30       Kincardineshire       
    MCBAY   Helen   F   11       Kincardineshire       
    MCBAY   James   M   9       Kincardineshire       
    MCBAY   Isabella   F   5       Kincardineshire       
    MCBAY   Edward   M   3       Kincardineshire       
    MCBAY   Alexr   M   1       Kincardineshire

lots of McBay's in Kincardineshire in the 1840s

Yours Aye
BruceL
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: flst on Monday 29 November 10 18:56 GMT (UK)
I agree, freecen is worth looking at - once davymcb establishes who his great grandparents were!
flst
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: davymcb on Sunday 05 December 10 16:12 GMT (UK)
hi have got some details about my grandfather he was john mcbay died 1962 aged 78,his wife was sarah park mcqueen ,parents were edward mcbay fishmonger and his mother was georgina mcbay any information would very much appreciated
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 05 December 10 17:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Davy

Just going by the names you now have for your grandfather's parents, from the 1901 census - everyone showing as born in Benholm, is the entry that flst first mentioned:

Edward McBay 52, whitefisher
Georgina McBay 47
Edward McBay 24
William McBay 20
John McBay 17, Tailor (apprentice)
Margaret W McBay 17
Georgina McBay 14
Robert McBay 12
Ann C McBay 10
Elizabeth A McBay 7
Charlotte McBay 5
Margaret Waiter 70, Mother-in-Law

Address: Mid Street, Benholm, Kincardineshire

Monica  :)
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: ev on Sunday 05 December 10 17:16 GMT (UK)
hi  :)

the IGI has a marriage for edward mcbay and georgina waiters
5th july 1872 benholm kincardineshire

1881 back street benholm kincardineshire(johnshaven)(all born benholm)
edward mcbey 35 fisherman
georgina mcbey 27
james mcbey 8
bell mearns mcbey 6
edward mcbey 4
alexander mcbey 2
william mcbey 1 week
margaret waiter 51 mother in law

ev

also found -

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johnstrachantree&id=I411
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 05 December 10 17:20 GMT (UK)
That does look like them doesn't it Ev.

Some more possible info here that you should be able to confirm with BMDs: www.angelfire.com/ny4/peterhead/d0005/g0000008.html#I18937

Monica

Added: Sorry Ev, post crossed. The WorldConnect date looks good  :)
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: ev on Sunday 05 December 10 17:33 GMT (UK)
bell mcbay(other surname mearns) death 1887 benholm kincardineshire
born c1808 on scotlandspeople(5th october 1887)

ev
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 05 December 10 17:40 GMT (UK)
See BruceL's 1841 census has now come into play  ;)

Monica
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: davymcb on Friday 10 December 10 19:52 GMT (UK)
hi again i am now looking for any information on edward mcbay born about 1806 -1841/51 and also which are the best ways to find out more detail about my great great grandparents
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: EileenA on Sunday 12 December 10 15:15 GMT (UK)
Hi - Have just read your query about your Johnshaven McBey/McBay ancestors.  I live in Johnshaven and am also descended from the McBays and have done almost all the descendant family trees back to the original two brothers who came down from Banff/Rathven in the mid 1700s.  Your grandfather Edward McBey was a great character.  Known as "Lang Ned" he was the first Cox of the Johnshaven lifeboat and a very brave man.  If you need any more information I'll be glad to supply it.  Kind regards, Eileen.
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: macca14 on Monday 07 February 11 14:59 GMT (UK)
Hello EileenA,
I am looking for the McBay's of Johnshaven.  My GF (John David McBay) came to Australia in 1927 from Great Yarmouth in England.  His Mother and Father (John McBay and Edith Jane Blyth) were both from Johnshaven. John's parents are David McBay and Ann Douglas and Edith's are Walter Blyth and Helen Salmon. I'm just in the process of confirming all the details before I cement them into my tree.  Nice to talk to another McBay.

Wendy :)
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: foggyman on Friday 04 March 11 15:55 GMT (UK)
Hi,
John McBay b.1880,Johnshaven is my 3c2r, marr. Edith Blyth 4 Feb 1907 Great Yarmouth. They had a least 5 children, George,John David,Ann, Henry and Walter. Reading all the answers to this post it looks as if our common ancestors were my 4x Grt.Grandparents Alexander McBay/Bey b.1769 Miltonhaven,St.Cyrus,Kincs. and Christian Ritchie b.1783 of  Johnshaven, Kincs. My line is from their son Thomas b.1811,Miltonhaven,St.Cyrus who is Edward's brother.
I live near Heathrow Airport,London,UK and have a lot of data on the MCBAY/BEY line.
I look forward to hearing from all who are interested.
I have attached a copy of John Mearns McBay and family in Johnshaven c1880 which was sent to me by a family member who lives in Scotland, the man standing on the left is the spitting image of my youngest brother Dennis.
Regards to All
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: thehammies13 on Friday 04 March 11 23:10 GMT (UK)
Hi foggyman-
I recognise this photo! 
I was sent it by a rootschatter who has sadly since died.  i sent it on to my cousin, as one of the McBay's in it was her grandfather.
I'll need to dig out my notes, to familiarise myself with the names - not my line, but my cousin's.
Will be in touch later.
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: macca14 on Saturday 05 March 11 08:06 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm interested in the photo you have just posted.  Can you name McBay's in the photo?  As mentioned before I am descended from the line of John McBay-Edith Jane Blyth.  Their sons, George and David John (my grandfather) emigrated to Australia in 16 July 1927.  George settled in Melbourne and David went on to Sydney. George died, aged 36 in 1942 with as far as I can ascertain never marrying or having children. David married Anetta Rooke and had two children, John and William.  My husband and I will be travelling to Scotland in April and will be having a look around the Johnshaven area.  Any tips of "must see" family locations I should take in? 
Wendy
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: foggyman on Saturday 05 March 11 10:44 GMT (UK)
Hi,
WENDY:
The man with the beard sitting in the middle of the photo is JOHN MEARNS MCBAY b.1828-1897.
Standing left to right: GEORGE DOUGLAS DUNCAN,(son-in-law of JMM), ISABELLA PERT 1856-1937(daughter-in law to JMM and sister to his second wife Elizabeth Pert), ANN MCBAY 1860 1900 (daughter of JMM and ANN DAVIDSON first wife), the man standing with dog is believed to be JMM's son JAMES MCBAY 1854-1936.
Sitting left to right: JEANIE BELL MCBAY  1863-1953 (daughter of JMM,husband George standing behind her), JMM (Himself), Elizabeth Pert 1850-1931 ( JMM's second wife), this was information given to me by Mcbay family living in Scotland.
I have not been to Johnshaven so I cannot advise on what to see, the only thing I can say is if you go to where the village of Miltonhaven was (now a caravan site) in ST.CYRUS,Kincs., that is where the MCBAYS line started back in the mid 1700s.

Hi, thehammies13,
I am interested in all MCBAY/BEY lines and would like to hear from your cousin regarding their line of the Mcbays.
Title: Re: mcbays of johnshaven
Post by: macca14 on Saturday 05 March 11 14:00 GMT (UK)
Thank you for that foggyman.  I love the old photos, I have some from my mothers side in Australia, but not many from the McBay side. Do you think the photo was taken in Johnshaven? I'm counting down the weeks now until we leave Aus, I'm really looking forward to just being on the coast and in the towns where they all came from. 
Wendy :)