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Title: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 11:10 GMT (UK)
Hello to anyone who can help !!!

Looking for info. on Charles Allen and Sarah Edwards married 1824 Redruth.

Looking for info. on William Allen and Jane Lance married 1847 place unknown

Jamison
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: down-under on Saturday 27 November 10 11:22 GMT (UK)

Jane Lance and William Allen married Redruth Cornwall June quarter 1847 9  307

Pam
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 11:24 GMT (UK)
Hello Pam

Thanks for the reply are you connected to them ?

Jamison
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: down-under on Saturday 27 November 10 11:30 GMT (UK)
Hello

Sorry I am not connected.

Is this them?

1851 H0107/1915 folio 314 page 14 Redruth  Treliegh Cornwall 

Treliegh Downs Bassett Road

William Allen age 23 Copper Miner Redruth
Jane wife age 20 Redruth
William son age 3 St Agnes
Charles son age 1 Redruth

Pam
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 11:33 GMT (UK)
Pam

You are a star - Yes they are !!!

Sorry that you are not connected.

Did you find them in the census records ?

Regards

Jamison 
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: down-under on Saturday 27 November 10 11:36 GMT (UK)
Hello

could this be Jane William the son was born St Agnes

1841 H0107/149/4 folio 10 page  13 St Agnes Cornwall

John Lance age 40 copper miner all born in county
Hannah age 35
Caroline age 12
Jane age 10
May age 8
John age 6
Richard age 4
William age 2
/
May Paule age 9

Pam
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: down-under on Saturday 27 November 10 11:47 GMT (UK)
Hello

Yes census from Ancestry

1841 H0107/143/16  folio 42 page 4 Redruth
Neth? Downs

Chas Allen age 35 copper miner all born in county
Sarah age 35
Chas age 16 copper miner
Wm Allen age 13 copper miner
Thos age 11
Joseph age 8
Sarah age 6
Maryann age 4
Richard age 1
N K male age 4 months

Pam
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 11:50 GMT (UK)
Pam

The Allen one is good but not the Lance one - Francis and Jane Lance parents.

Thanks for the info.

Jamison
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: down-under on Saturday 27 November 10 11:56 GMT (UK)
Okay could this be her then? 
1841 H0107/147/14 folio 68 page 22 Kenwyn Cornwall

Calenish ?? Street

Francis Lance age 35  lab all born in county
Mary age 35
Elizabeth age 10
Jane age 9
Nancy age 8
John age 4
Mary age 3
James age 2

Pam
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 12:01 GMT (UK)
Pam

That is the one because Francis married as his second wife Mary ?

Thanks again

Jamison
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: down-under on Saturday 27 November 10 12:15 GMT (UK)

1851 H0107/1910 folio 81 page 17 Truro St Clement Cornwall

Francis Lance age 44 farm lab born Truro
Maryann wife age 47 Truro
Jane dau age 20 servant Kenwyn I think this must be Elizabeth she is no where else
Nanny? dau age 18 Kenwyn
John son age 14 Kenwyn
Mary dau age 13 Kenwyn
James son  age 11 Truro
Ann M dau age 6 St Clement
Louisa dau age 2 St Clement

Pam
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 12:19 GMT (UK)
Pam

Spot on !!!

Elizabeth then moved out by then so Jane is the next eldest dau.

More to mull over - the youngest two are new for me.

Jamison
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 12:33 GMT (UK)
Pam

Thanks for your help and info. just signing off for awhile back later.

Thanks a million.  :)
 
Jamison
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: osprey on Saturday 27 November 10 21:10 GMT (UK)
possible first marriage for Francis

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=491577&dbtype=marriages&formval=

and second one

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=492247&dbtype=marriages&formval=
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 22:16 GMT (UK)
Osprey

You have found what l have been looking for but not able to find.

Jamison
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 22:18 GMT (UK)
Osprey

How would l find Jane Taylor`s (1st wife) death record etc...

Jamison
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: osprey on Saturday 27 November 10 22:39 GMT (UK)
possible?

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=421905&dbtype=burials&formval=

not long after this baptism

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=1433057&dbtype=baptisms&formval=
Title: Re: Allen/Lance Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: jamison on Saturday 27 November 10 22:55 GMT (UK)
Wow Osprey

Again thanks it makes it all clear to me now.

You have been a wondeful help !!!

And it shows how much l still have to learn about finding things myself.

Jamison
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: drice on Thursday 28 July 11 04:32 BST (UK)
Jamison -
stumbled across this post while doing my own research, i'm descended from William Allen/Jane Lance.
does this forum have PM?
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: down-under on Thursday 28 July 11 05:25 BST (UK)
Hello

You have to post a couple of times before you can private mail.
Just post a couple of words .

Regards Pam
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: jamison on Thursday 28 July 11 05:40 BST (UK)
Hello Drice

Which child do you descend from !!!

Jamison
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: drice on Thursday 28 July 11 05:43 BST (UK)
I am very light on for solid proof, hence the reason i'm looking, but would appear I am descended from their second son Charles, born Redruth, died Long Gully, Bendigo.
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: jamison on Thursday 28 July 11 05:48 BST (UK)


Do you have any thing on the family back in Cornwall ?
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: suzipuzi on Friday 26 October 12 06:26 BST (UK)
Hello to anyone who can help !!!

Looking for info. on Charles Allen and Sarah Edwards married 1824 Redruth.

Looking for info. on William Allen and Jane Lance married 1847 place unknown

Jamison
 
if you are still looking for info on this topic I may be able to help, my husband is a great grandson of William/Jane
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: jamison on Tuesday 06 November 12 15:21 GMT (UK)
Hello Suzipuzi

Would love to hear from you !!!

I am just looking for info on them and their children as well as the family back in Cornwall - if possible.

Jamison
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: suzipuzi on Sunday 11 November 12 04:00 GMT (UK)
hello Jamison, are you related
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: crow41 on Tuesday 25 June 13 08:33 BST (UK)
My g/father was Frederick James Allen b 1883 s/o Charles Allen & Elizabeth Adamson. Charles Allen  b1849  is s/o William Allen & Jane Lance who married 21 june 1847.
With ref to prev info above I agree with 1851 redruth census for william allen family, but my info is that Jane Lances' parents are John Lance and Hannah Prisk ref 1841 census St Agness, not Francis Lance as has been suggested.
Have you followed this up? Iam happy to be proven wrong.
BJ
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: osprey on Tuesday 25 June 13 11:23 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat!  ;D

The only way to be sure would be to get the 1847 marriage cert to see who Jane gives as her father.

 ;)
Title: Re: ALLEN/LANCE Family - Cornwall England/Australia
Post by: crow41 on Wednesday 26 June 13 06:35 BST (UK)
I have received pm indicating that the marriage cert of William Allen and Jane Lance shows Jane Lance's parents are John Lance and Hannah Prisk.
Rootschat does it again...thanks