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Title: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: Rockmore on Saturday 27 November 10 08:49 GMT (UK)
Hi I'm trying to find out about a very small bar which was situated on the right hand side of William street as you are going out of the town. The bar was basically the front room of a small terrace house. I think the bar may have been owned by a relative of a very good friend of mine who is 92. He would love to know any details about it.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: nickr90 on Saturday 27 November 10 11:04 GMT (UK)
It is probably Brady's - now a bit bigger. I think it might have been Purcells but I am sure Shellback will correct me.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: Rockmore on Saturday 27 November 10 16:07 GMT (UK)
Sorry I have misled you the bar was on the left hand side going out of Wexford it was part of a row of terraced houses
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shorts on Saturday 27 November 10 19:22 GMT (UK)
My Mother who lived in Maudlintown in the 1940/1950 era recalls the following

Leaving the town on the left hand side of William St (past the bottom of Fishers Row) there were three small houses that sold goods:

A sweet Shop - run by a man called "Ennis", next door was "Maggie Johnsons" who sold apples and further up the street a small bar known as "Alfie Kerfoots".

These names are how they sounded and may not be spelt correctly.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shorts on Saturday 27 November 10 19:38 GMT (UK)
Further to my post I have just checked out the 1911 census.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003622032/

Alfred Kerfoot (then aged 2) was living with his Mother Margaret in William St. Her occupation is 'Shop Keeper' although on the Household & Building return it states their dwelling as "Public House'.

At that time it was the only Public House in William Street - it looks like Alfie remained at the property and carried on the trade.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shellback on Sunday 28 November 10 10:02 GMT (UK)
The bar in question was Margaret Anne Kerfoots. After Margaret Ann's day it was run by her nephew Larry Grannell. It was,as Shorts said, in the front room of a two up, two down terrace house.During the 60s when Larry wass hospitalised the customers ran the bar themselves, for about 6 or 7 months and not as much as a. penny went astray. I often had a drink there on the way to catch the train for Rosslare. Some shipmates lived nearby and we all met up in mARGAret Anne's. The remnants of the sign is still over the door although it is now a dwelling house
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shellback on Sunday 28 November 10 10:07 GMT (UK)
I forgot to mention I knew two Alfie Kerfoots there.Father and son, perhaps?.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: nickr90 on Sunday 28 November 10 14:44 GMT (UK)
I knew that shagger would have the information. He really needs to write a book about his memories of Wexford before he falls over and forgets it all.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shorts on Sunday 28 November 10 16:19 GMT (UK)
Here are two lists of ratepayers (heads of Household) resident in William Street in 1936. Some of the names mentioned in the posts above appear in the lists.

The first is those assenting to a proposal on the local Water Supply
The second is those in opposition to a loan for a new town hall

(Source: Wexford People Newspaper - Oct 1936)
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shellback on Sunday 28 November 10 17:08 GMT (UK)
Lots of old seafaring families in that list Nick(my particular interest) The Tuskar View bit lists I think ,the last of the Lamberts to live in the area .Simon Lambert was a boat builder who's boatyard was where the present (new) Tuskar View houses are .He built the original Tuskar View opposite and was one of the directors of the old Gannet Fishing Company.I think he had a hand in building Lambert Terrace or Lambert Place too.One or the other.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shellback on Sunday 28 November 10 17:12 GMT (UK)
BTW Nickr ,Thanks for including a photo of a small bit of my family home, The Cottage Maudlintown, in your latest excellent book "Remembering Wexford "(page 83) .It just shows the gable end and my grandfather's workshop, he was a hurley maker. Not a lot but it's the only photo I've ever seen of it .
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: Rockmore on Sunday 28 November 10 17:50 GMT (UK)
Thanks very much for this information. Seamus' mother was a Redmond from Wexford town  and moved to Belfast around 1900. I am trying to get the connection between the Redmonds and the bar in William street. Seamus thinks they were his cousins.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: dukeslane on Sunday 28 November 10 18:42 GMT (UK)
hi shellback was wondering if you new anything about my great uncle ben fenlon and his brother thomas if there is any old photos of him any help would be great
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shorts on Sunday 28 November 10 19:07 GMT (UK)
Lots of old seafaring families in that list Nick(my particular interest) The Tuskar View bit lists I think ,the last of the Lamberts to live in the area .Simon Lambert was a boat builder who's boatyard was where the present (new) Tuskar View houses are .He built the original Tuskar View opposite and was one of the directors of the old Gannet Fishing Company.I think he had a hand in building Lambert Terrace or Lambert Place too.One or the other.

The only other Lambert's I can find on the 1936 lists are:

Alice Lambert - Tusker View
N Lambert - S.Main St
C Lambert - Wolf Tone Villas
 
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shorts on Sunday 28 November 10 19:45 GMT (UK)
hi shellback was wondering if you new anything about my great uncle ben fenlon and his brother thomas if there is any old photos of him any help would be great

The following Fenlons appear on the 1936 lists

F Fenlon - Kevin Barry St
J Fenlon - Kevin Barry St
J Fenlon - Bride St
J Fenlon - The Faythe
L Fenlon - Spafield Ave
M Fenlon - Wolfe Tone Villas
T Fenlon - St Johns Gate

(also a possible - M Fenelon - Dolphin Rd)

Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shellback on Monday 29 November 10 14:01 GMT (UK)
There were a few Fen(e)lon families in the Maudlintown area. I think that they were all related and are the same family as Ben Fenlon ,mentioned above.so far as I know. I would really like to see a photo of Ben Fenlon.Ben was a very well known local character . Perhaps Nickr could delve into his collection?.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: dukeslane on Tuesday 30 November 10 18:36 GMT (UK)
thanks shellback one of my older cousins lives in wolf tone villas he new ben fenlon and he looked like sandy the vicars father in emmerdale farm ??? the fenlons had a very large family in the town
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: dukeslane on Tuesday 30 November 10 18:43 GMT (UK)
thanks shorts is there anyother info with them names you can give me ive been trying to research the family with not much luck
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: Mairead.E on Tuesday 23 April 13 22:38 BST (UK)
Many thanks to Shorts for directing me to this thread.

I wonder whether anyone is able to pinpoint the actual house that used to be Kerfoot's public house?

I ask as it seems my Grandad (Thomas Swaine) lived next door. I've been up and down that road so many times over the years and never knew he'd lived there (and possibly my Nanny too when they married), so would love to find it when I'm next over from England.

Many thanks for any help.  :)
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: shellback on Tuesday 23 April 13 22:43 BST (UK)
You can't really miss it Mairead. As you go down William St. it's near the top of the hill on the right hand side. There is still the mark of the old sign over the window.
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: Mairead.E on Wednesday 24 April 13 08:06 BST (UK)
You can't really miss it Mairead. As you go down William St. it's near the top of the hill on the right hand side. There is still the mark of the old sign over the window.

That's great, thanks....I shall have a look next time I'm over, probably not 'til summer now though  :(
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: prue1 on Wednesday 07 May 14 23:00 BST (UK)
hi , where did you get this little gem. do you know the numbers of the houses on william street to go with the names on the first list ?
Title: Re: Wexford bar in William street
Post by: dathai on Thursday 08 May 14 11:14 BST (UK)
Can you find it on Street View Google Maps ?