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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: partydancer on Thursday 18 November 10 10:06 GMT (UK)
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Hello
Trying to find any information on my nan Annie Bashford who got married in 20th Jan 1920 age 20 to Walter Turner her marriage certificate states her father is William Bashford desceased General Labourer, living at 8 Little Randolph Street. St Pancras, London. Witnesses Minnie Platt, and John Turley?, i never met her as she died before i was born, but is supposedly from Gypsy. Spanish descent, but dont know whether that is true or not.
Any help would be brilliant.
many thanks :)
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Good morning Partydancer,
this oen looks a strong candidate - but we don't really know yet
1901 RG13; Piece: 471; Folio: 27; Page: 46
1 Melrose Terrace, Hazlehurst Road Streatham
Charlotte Brooker widow 50 yrs laundry worker b Portsmouth
William Bashford son married 20 yrs General Labourer b Aldershot
Ada M Bashford daur 14 yrs b Surrey Bletchingley
Alice E Bashford daur in law 20 yrs b Surrey Malden
Violet A Bashford grandaughter 2 yrs b Surrey Tooting
Annie C Bashford grandaughter 4 mths b Tooting
George Jarves boarder 22 ys general labourer b Croydon
you could look the family up in 1911 or any other Annies perhaps. She may also have been referred to as Ann of course.
regards
heywood
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I am bit bothered in case we go off in the wrong direction but she is the only one I can see in 1901 census with a father William.
There are no deaths though that I can see for the right aged William 1901-1920. :-\
Looking at earlier censuses (for any Gypsy/Spanish descent)
1891 RG12; Piece: 602; Folio 107; Page 39
William is with stepfather Thomas Booker and mother Charlotte and siblings
1881 RG11; Piece: 786; Folio: 88; Page: 5
Edward Bashford 32 yrs Private 109th Regiment of Foot b Crowhurst Surrey
Charlotte Bashford 28 yrs b Portsmouth
William Bashford b Aldershot
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That's odd - I was just looking for further information to help you and came across your family tree with all this information ::)
It would help if you would post what you already have and what exactly you need. Your post gives the impression that you know nothing and I feel as though I have just wasted my time. :(
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Hi
What i have is Annies Parents as Alice Turvill 1881 - 1950 and her father as William Bashford 1881, was trying to do more on this tree, this morning, but nothing seems to fit now, so am starting again as i think i have gone wrong. Its Annies mothers line i am trying to do, the trouble is i lost most of my notes in a house fire, so cant remember where or how i found the information i have. Just want to make sure i get it right. I wouldnt want to waste anyones time.
many thanks
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I'm sure you wouldn't - it was when I noticed the Turville name, I wondered whether the witness may have been a Turvill.
Your tree is on Ancestry anyway if you need to look again.
So, are you now unsure about Annie being a Turvill/Bashford?
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Hello,
I think i am having a blonde moment ???, was getting muddled with Charlottes name being Brooker, and was looking at William Bashford as Annies brother not father . I am trying to find info on William Bashford and his wife Alice, and Charlotte Bashford (Brooker) also have her last name on my tree as Satchell but i have no idea where i got that from as i lost all my records, these are the ones i am having trouble with and keep coming to dead ends. Thought i had found Alice in a workhouse in Portsmouth when she is 6, but nothing more then that no parents etc. :)
Hope that makes sense :-[
many thanks
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Yes think you're right
1871 RG10; Piece: 1131; Folio: 83; Page: 4
Charlotte Satchall 16 yrs servant b Portsmouth
1861 RG9; Piece: 635; Folio: 113; Page: 42
6 yr old Charlotte in the workhouse in Portsmouth :(
can't find a birth record :(
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In 1861 there is also:
Amelia Satchell 12 yrs
Richard Satchell 10 yrs
George Satchell 9 yrs
in the workhouse too.
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Hello
seems they had a sad beginning all in the workhouse, doesnt seem to be any sign of parents for Charlotte or Alice, cant find birth records for any of them ???
thanks again :)
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Not looked for Alice- was she also in the workhouse?
It is really sad isn't it. The Portsmouth workhouse lists seem to go on forever!
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Hi
I Have found one Alice Turvill living in Surrey, this could be her as this is where her husband William Bashford lived too, need to work back from there, also need to find there marriage birth etc.
Not sure how to get any further back with Charlotte or her possible siblings. doesnt seem to be anything for them before 1861.
thanks
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Free BMD and Family Search have a marriage for Amelia Shergail Satchell to John James Hall.
There are births on Free BMd for Amelia Sherwell and Amelia Shellshear :-\
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have tried looking for Amelia in 1851 as she was born in 1849, but cant find her?
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We can rule our Amelia Shellshear - 1861 has Amelia Shelser with parents Charles and Sarah.
1851 has a William and Sophia Shelter (transcribed) -could be Sh**lter but need to look further
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There is a tree with Amelia as follows:
1851 HO107; Piece: 1659; Folio: 556; Page: 4
William Seatchall 36 yrs sawyer
Jane Seatchall 35 yrs Hay (?) maker
Jane Seatchall 15 yrs -do-
Elizabeth Seatchall 11 yrs -do-
Mary Ann Seatchall 9 yrs
John Seatchall 7 yrs
William Seatchall 7 yrs
Amelia Seatchall 2 yrs
all born Portsea
The tree has a marriage for William to Jane Sherwell
There is an 1857 death for Jane Satchell
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1861 RG9; Piece: 637; Folio: 87; Page: 21
25 Military Row Portsmouth
William Satchell Widower 45 yrs Sawyer b Landport Hampshire
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There are births on Free BMD for Amelia Sherwell and Charlotte Sherwell
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Have found someone with a tree on ancestry, that has a Amelia Satchell born 1849 in Porstmouth with parents William Satchell born 1815 - 1894 born in Portsmouth married to Jane Sherwell born 1816 - 1857 in Portsmouth, says the info was found for Amelia on the 1851 census but i cannot find it. Would explain if it is Charlotte and Amelias mother why they were in the workhouse in 1861, as she would have only been 41 when she died. Just cannot seem to find them in the 1851 census.
was just going to post this when i saw your post, great minds think alike, seems this is likely to be them.
many thanks again for your help
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No I couldn't find them but I think they have been transcribed with a family called 'Wan' - if I recall it was 'Evan' family.
Good luck
heywood
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