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Title: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: meganbutel on Wednesday 17 November 10 01:58 GMT (UK)
Not sure where to post this but thought here might be a place to start.
If anyone has access to Chelsea Pensioner records - I am looking for a Thomas Pettet (Petitt/Pettett and all the various spelling you can think of!) born about 1828 in Stone, Kent.
He was a Chelsea Pensioner and died 15 Jan 1894 in Brighton Sussex. I think he was a "living out" pensioner (i.e. not in the hospital).

It is my understanding that Chelsea Pensioners had to have seen active service. He is in the 1871 Census aged 42 and described as a Chelsea Pensioner from then on. I am thinking that he would most likely have been sent to the Crimea given the time period but confirmation of where he saw active service and whether he was married during that period would be of great interest.

Kind regards

Megan
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: geniecolgan on Wednesday 17 November 10 05:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Megan,

Thomas Pettit, b. Tenterden, Kent 1828, served in the 35th of Foot. His number was 1747.

genie  :)

P.S.
I've sent you a PM
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: meganbutel on Wednesday 17 November 10 05:41 GMT (UK)
 Genie

You're a genius!
Thanks so much - what a gem!

Megan
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: carrey56 on Saturday 01 January 11 12:00 GMT (UK)
I am also looking for a couple of Chelsea pensioners,
One is James Pollard b Leicestershire c 1786
the other was john Boyd b c late 1700s He lived in St Luke Chelsea

any info on either of these men would be of assistance, thanks

Carmel
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: Valda on Saturday 01 January 11 17:11 GMT (UK)
Hi

From The National Archives catalogue

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp

WO 119/42/248  JAMES POLLARD. Born MARKET HARBRO', Leicestershire. Served in 34th Foot Regiment. Discharged aged 30. Covering dates give year of enlistment to year of discharge. Kilmainham Reference: A12514. 1807-1817

There are a lot of John Boyds in the catalogue with pension records


Regards

Valda
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: carrey56 on Sunday 02 January 11 00:40 GMT (UK)
Thankyou Velda, I had looked here but hoping there may be more information some where else. I did not mentioned I had looked here however. Even though there was an extra one for James I had not come across previously. seems I had not looked at this site for a while and new stuff being added all the time, no doubt!
Again Thankyou
Carmel
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: jaynes77 on Saturday 08 January 11 00:23 GMT (UK)
Hello,
I am also looking for a Chelsea Pensioner: John Smith who was born in Lesmahagoe, Scotland in 1783 and died in 1869 in Islington, London. 
He was a "living out" pensioner.  According to the 1861 UK census he was a "Chelsea pensioner - Royal Artillery".  I guess he would have served in the Napoleonic Wars. 
I would be most grateful if anyone could confirm that or provide any additional information. 
Thank you.
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: johnxyz on Saturday 08 January 11 19:05 GMT (UK)
Again from the National Archives catalogue

WO97/1262/189

JOHN SMITH
Born LESMAHAGOE, Lanarkshire
Served in Royal Artillery
Discharged aged 33

1803-1816

Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: jaynes77 on Sunday 09 January 11 16:00 GMT (UK)
Thank you very much, John.  That's most helpful!
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: gortonboy on Sunday 09 January 11 16:33 GMT (UK)
John Smith  Royal Artillery  born St Andrews

he was a driver in A troop

joined 1803    discharged Woolwich  7th Oct 1814

brown hair,,,grey eyes,,,fresh complexion

a weaver by trade


Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: jaynes77 on Monday 10 January 11 09:00 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the additional information, Gortonboy.

I have now downloaded the discharge record from findmypast.

Thanks to all for pointing me in the right direction.
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: jaynes77 on Sunday 23 January 11 16:32 GMT (UK)
Back again.
I am looking for help to decipher some information in the Chelesea Pensioner record http://www.findmypast.co.uk/chelseaPensionerShowImage.action?sdrfnbr=971262192 of John Smith (born in Lesmahagoe, Lanark, Scotland in 1783; Royal Artillery 1803-1816).  At the time of his discharge, he was bombardier in Capitain H. W. Gordon's Delachs (?) Company, 8th battalion of the Royal Regiment of Artillery, of which Lt General J. Macleod was Colonel Commandant.
I had hoped that this information would help me to find out more about where he had served, etc.  However, I found hardly any information about H.W. Gordon during this period.  Also I'm not sure what the word "Delachs" (or "Detach") signifies.  If anybody can help I'd be most grateful.
Also, the discharge record I got from the Chelsea Pensioner records (via findmypast) is referenced WO 97/1262/192.  There is is another record (which I can't access online) on The National Archives site referenced WO 97/1262/189.  The subject is "JOHN SMITH Born LESMAHAGOE, Lanarkshire Served in Royal Artillery Discharged aged 33", covering date "1803-1816" I am not sure whether or not this  contains the same information as WO 97/1262/192 or if it is a different record.  Again, any I'd appreciate any advice anyone can give on that.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: johnxyz on Saturday 02 April 11 16:18 BST (UK)
The National Archive catalogue gives  WO 97/1262/292 as John SMITH born Kilcommon, Wicklow served in Royal Artillery discharged aged 37 dates 1803-1822. John SMITHs run from WO 97/1262/160 to 97/1262/207. 

Given that FindMyPast doesn't seem to tie up with the catalogue, I suspect it might need a check of the records at Kew to sort out the correct reference. However it does appear you have the right discharge papers.

You might find it helpful to read the research guide http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/looking-for-person/britisharmysoldierupto1913.htm?WT.lp=rg-3110.

As that guide suggests the next step is probably the muster roles, but that has to be done at Kew and can be rather tedious. Otherwise it's Google for terms such as 8th battalion Royal regiment Artilley. Chasing my pensioner's service in search engines, I didn't find the Company captain's name much use. It was though relevant for the muster roles.
Title: Re: Chelsea Pensioner Lookups
Post by: jaynes77 on Saturday 16 April 11 16:20 BST (UK)
Thank you very much, John!