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Title: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: Anihana on Sunday 14 November 10 07:54 GMT (UK)
Hi

What I can read is:

Sarah Rutherford
? ? Robert & Elizabeth Gillies ??

A native of ? Tyrone (The record doc said "Daruteright" Tyrone but I can't find any such place)

Calling Farm Servant ?

Age 21

None certifying

William Patterson ?

?

presbyterian (? ? Before marriage)

Can read & write a little no complaint

NEXT PAGE

Robert ? months

??
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/KiwiMR2/sarahgilliesjpg.jpg

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: danuslave on Sunday 14 November 10 08:25 GMT (UK)
Sarah Rutherford
Dr (daughter) of  Robert & Elizabeth Gillies both alive

A native of ? Tyrone (The record doc said "Daruteright" Tyrone but I can't find any such place)

Calling Farm Servant dairymaid?

Age 21

None certifying

William Patterson ?

?

presbyterian (Episcopalian Before marriage)

Can read & write a little no complaint

NEXT PAGE

Robert 14 months
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: PrueM on Sunday 14 November 10 08:25 GMT (UK)
Hi Andy :)

The  missing bits:

Dr [daughter] of … both alive
Darnteright is what it looks like to me...
…dairywoman
…episcopalian before marriage

14 months [as at] 31st [of] last month

Can't get it large enough to see what is written after William Patterson.

Hope that helps :)

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: Anihana on Sunday 14 November 10 08:37 GMT (UK)
Very much so - thanks :-)

episcopalian - so she would have married a presbyterian then, what does that maybe mean? - In ireland does that mean maybe a scottish background? Gillies is quite a common scottish name yeah?

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: Anihana on Sunday 14 November 10 08:52 GMT (UK)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/KiwiMR2/William.jpg
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: PrueM on Sunday 14 November 10 19:56 GMT (UK)
Hi Andy,
I still can't work out what it says - looks like "tothers" or "to thus", neither of which make sense!

Episcopalians are Anglican protestants; Presbyterianism is Scottish.

Cheers
Prue
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: Anihana on Monday 15 November 10 08:09 GMT (UK)
Thanks again for your help.

So here is her husband James Rutherford - he may have been of scottish heritage do you think based on the surname (common scottish name) and his religion?

Can you tell he he was "brought out by" ?

Calling is carpenter yeah?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v57/KiwiMR2/1204_70140.jpg

Cheers
Andy
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: veeblevort on Monday 15 November 10 14:03 GMT (UK)
Yes, Carpenter.

Brought out by A B Smith & Co.

Is the name William Patterson Collins?

This is clearer than the other in parts, and suggests that Sarah's health was also recorded as 'very good'.
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: Billyblue on Saturday 11 December 10 15:22 GMT (UK)
Hi
Re the place Sarah Rutherford is native of - could it be Desertcreat which is relatively near Cookstown where her husband is from?  I know it doesn't look like that, but realise that this information is being given to an English or even an Australian official, by someone with probably a strong Irish accent - say it phonetically and you'll see what I mean.
Presume you know that 'no complaint' after the R&W bit means she had no complaint about the voyage out, not that she had no complaint as in disease?
Do we know the date of this?  or the ship?
Title: Re: Help to decipher passenger record please
Post by: Anihana on Saturday 11 December 10 21:21 GMT (UK)
Hi
Re the place Sarah Rutherford is native of - could it be Desertcreat which is relatively near Cookstown where her husband is from?  I know it doesn't look like that, but realise that this information is being given to an English or even an Australian official, by someone with probably a strong Irish accent - say it phonetically and you'll see what I mean.
Presume you know that 'no complaint' after the R&W bit means she had no complaint about the voyage out, not that she had no complaint as in disease?
Do we know the date of this?  or the ship?


Heya

I think your probably right - it was a ship called the "Elizabeth" and the date was August 1841 arriving in New South Wales , Australia - into Sydney I believe.

They were in NZ a year or two after that I believe.

Cheers
Andy