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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Cheshire => England => Cheshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Fennawright on Sunday 14 November 10 00:28 GMT (UK)
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I've found the Bird family at Beeston Hall in 1861.
(RG9/2620 f22 p8)
Henery Bird was the head of the family and his occupation shows he was a
Farmer of 284 acres.
I'd like to find out a bit more about Beeston hall.
I found that the original hall of that name was destroyed by Prince Rupert centuries before, but I'd like to know what sort of building the Bird family were living in and whether it is still standing.
Fennawright
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Hello :)
1841 Beeston Hall, Beeston, Cheshire
William Bird age 30 Farmer
Emma Bird age 30
John Samuel Bird age 12
Henry Bird age 10
Samuel Challinor age 30 M S (Male Servant)
William Rivett age 25 M S
Joseph Brooks age 15 M S
Mary Harding age 30 F S (Female Servant)
Emma Wilson age 25 F S
Betty Dodd age 20 F S
Nancy Blackbird age 15 F S
Joseph Ardern age 15 M S
HO107/96/4/Bunbury
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Found Beeston Hall, Brook Ln, Beeston, Tarporley CW6 9TZ on go*gle but not sure if it's the right place.... :-\
and a software company called Sprogging Ltd seem to be based there (according to 192)
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Thanks for your replies.
I can't find anything on the company Sprogging Ltd.
That postcode turns up a few addresses so I think there must be newer houses built there.
I can't see anything about Sprogging Ltd . No pictures of where it's based, so
I can't tell if it's the same Beeston Hall or not.
Thanks for the 1841 entry.
Henry must have taken on the farming after his father.
I wonder why the older son John didn't.
Fennawright
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It's on here:
"Beeston Hall Farm" is towards the top right of the page
http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/TwinMaps.aspx?township=EDT_43-2
(a great site :))
You can also see the farm on google maps.
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Hi Ruskie
Thank you very much.
That is a very brilliant site showing old and new maps together.
Does it explain anywhere what the numbers on the old map mean?
Fennawright
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Sorry I can't remember ... I haven't used it for ages, but I think somewhere it tells you who owned or rented the numbered plots of land. I think you'll just have to fiddle round till you find it. ;D
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Fennawright - the old maps are the tithe maps - in this case from 1846. The numbers were those given to each plot for apportionment purposes. If you click on the "plot details" tab above the later map it gives the owner & occupier for that plot, its size and use. A plot is often one field or the area a house stands on.
For an explanation of tithe maps & apportionments there's a link at:
http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/Default.aspx
That site is wonderful - there are aerial views for some areas as well and via the links on the page I've posted you can also search by name & find all the plots listed for an ancestor whether as tenant or owner & what each was used for.
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I hope this link takes you to the right place - if you enter the surname Bird, you get results. :)
http://maps.cheshire.gov.uk/tithemaps/Search.aspx
On the page that gives you the results click on "map" on the far right which will show the location of the plot.
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I'm not sure which of the buildings is actually Beeston Hall. There are Beeston Hall Mews (up market real estate - try googling) plus other outbuildings. Unfortunately there's no street view on google maps but it looks rather nice from above. ;)
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Thank you both for your help.
I've managed to click on that site and see that William Bird had 58 perches
That fits in with the name on the 1841 census.
I'll be able to play around and see who the neighbours were too.
Fennawright
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Just had to comment on the tithe website done by Chester records office, I've used it myself whilst researching the family tree and it was an absolute godsend for locating stuff, a big pat on the back to the people at Chester for setting it up.....
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There's a death record for a John Bird n 1858 (Sep Q)
Nantwich volume 8a page 188
Perhaps this is Henry's older brother.
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Thanks, yes that could be John's death and that would explain why
Henry was in charge of the farm.
Fennawright