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Title: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: rogden on Friday 12 November 10 18:44 GMT (UK)
I have traced my wife's Tom family back to WILLIAM TOM who married MARY EDYVEAN in Little Petherick on 4 December 1769. They had at least five children born at nearby St Ervan, viz: Mary 1770, Jane 72, William 75, John 75 and Gregory 77.
One or two other family historians have attributed William Snr as being christened 5 September 1756 at St Ervan, the son of JOHN TOM and MARY HICKS. However, assuming he was christened soon after birth, this would put William Snr as only 13 years old when he married. Is this possible or does anyone know of a more likely christening for William Snr?
I would appreciate your thoughts.
Roger
Title: Re: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: toni* on Friday 12 November 10 19:05 GMT (UK)
have you tried Cornwall-opc.org ?
Title: Re: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: rogden on Friday 12 November 10 19:34 GMT (UK)
Toni
Yes, and via another source, one of the Cornwall OPC's has listed William's birth as 1756 and his marriage as 1769.
Roger
Title: Re: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: osprey on Friday 12 November 10 19:37 GMT (UK)
the marriage was by licence and he looks to have been a yeoman

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/moreinfo.php?ID=418531&dbtype=marriages&formval=

The licence may contain more info. You may be able to get a photocopy of the licence from the record office in Exeter - Cornwall was in the diocese of Exeter

http://www.devon.gov.uk/index/councildemocracy/record_office/our_records.htm
Title: Re: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: toni* on Friday 12 November 10 19:41 GMT (UK)
i had this problem with one of my Holmans and when i asked the question at a family history fair i was told simply that it wouldnt happen for Thomas to be the son of John and for John to have been 13 when Thomas was born, although it was entirely legal.  :-\ after much searching i eventually found my Thomas in Gwennap not Kenwyn and his father was James not John but he is definitely mine as other factors prove so. sorry i cant help with your problem
Title: Re: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: rogden on Wednesday 17 November 10 16:41 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the replies to date.
I have since received confirmation that WILLIAM TOM was indeed a yeoman when he married in 1769. I cannot, however, determine online if the marriage licence is held at Exeter; it seems that relatively few Cornwall licences are held there.
At present, I remain with this brickwall.
Roger
Title: Re: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: osprey on Wednesday 17 November 10 17:13 GMT (UK)
well, I've had a copy of a licence from Exeter that was for a marriage in Ladock. Have you emailed the record office in Exeter to check?
Title: Re: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: toni* on Wednesday 17 November 10 21:45 GMT (UK)
have you tried here ?

http://crocat.cornwall.gov.uk/dserve/dserve.exe?dsqApp=Archive&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqCmd=Search.tcl


another way would be to try to find some earlier TOM wills and see if they left the children anything ???
Title: Re: TOM family of St Ervan & Little Petherick
Post by: Lilydale on Sunday 01 September 24 16:39 BST (UK)
I match on Ancestry dna with a young Petherick  girl and her father who live in Oxfordshire, England  and they also match with my Toms cousin of Cobourg, Ontario, Canada.  Their family does go back to Cornwall, England a according yo their tree. Your Tom family could be related to my Toms. My most distant confirmed Toms was a William Toms born about 1812 in St Teath , Cornwall, England  who died 22 May 1870 in Trevena, Tintagel, Cornwall.  William was married  to Alice Jewell born about 18!6 in Tintagel  to John Jewell and Ann Broad.  William Toms and Alice Jewell's son Thomas Toms was born 20 Sept 1835 in Tintagel and was my gg grandfather.  Thomas and his sister Ann Jewell  Toms ( already married to Samuel  Cann) immigrated to Cobourg, Ontario, Canada in 1856. He had been a quarryman at the Long Grass Slate Quarry.  He was lowered  by ropes to quarry the slate to be split in old splitting sheds.  Even in Cobourg, " Tommy "  had property there that he quarried stone from  for the basement foundation  of Victoria  Hall. On 7 Sept 1890, another sister of Thomas Toms, a spinster, Elizabeth  Jane Toms ( born 10 Nov 1844 in Tintagel ) made her way to Cobourg, Ontario  where she lived until her death in 1921.