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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Glamorganshire Lookup Requests => Glamorganshire => Wales => Glamorganshire Completed Lookups => Topic started by: LyndeR on Wednesday 10 November 10 08:35 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone my friend has asked for my help finding her family from Cardiff Wales,i'll give you what i have hoping someone can help us ..
this is beginning
grandads' name is herbert claude william james. born in 1897 (21st Oct?)
his parents names are caleb william davies (born abt 1870) and elizabeth emma smith (born abt 1874/1875)
herbert was married twice, first in 1924 to diana leather (deceased)
and then in august 1940 to my nanna 'sylvia doroty police' in Perth western australia
herbert also died in perth, western australia on dec 25 1962. all i know was that he was born in cardiff wales (that is on his death cerificate)
thankyou...cheers Lynne
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As a starting point
Marriage from FreeBMD
Sep q 1896 Barton Regis 6a 279
Caleb William DAVIES
Elizabeth Emma SMITH
marriage details family pilot search
Caleb William DAVIES age 26 (1870) father George
Elizabeth Emma SMITH age 22 (1876) father Thomas
1896 St. Matthew Moorfields, Bristol, Gloucester
birth family pilot
Herbert Caleb William DAVIES
14/11/1897 Moorfield, Gloucester
parents Caleb William DAVIES Elizabeth Emma
**ADDED**
herbert also died in perth, western australia on dec 25 1962.
all i know was that he was born in cardiff wales (that is on his death cerificate)
I have re-checked and can find no Herbert born in Cardiff Wales to Caleb William DAVIES and Elizabeth Emma SMITH, only the one above who was born in Gloucester which is in ENGLAND - I hope that the above is the one you are looking for :)
Gloucester is some way from Cardiff by car the journey takes around 1hour 30mins.
Here's a map
http://www.censusfinder.com/map_unitedkingdom.htm
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Oh boy you are wonderful,this will help me start ,i was having trouble now i can see my way a bit clearly ,so good of you thank you so much..we are hoping if we get enough info she would like to get copy of birth cert ..not sure how yet to go about it ..but thats what we hope we are able to do eventually ...thank you ..Lynne
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You can order certificates from GRO see link below
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
Birth
Dec Q 1897
Herbert Caleb W DAVIES
Barton R 6a 158
Herbert living with his parents in Gloucester on 1901 census
This could be Caleb with his mother in 1881 Staple Hill Road, Mangotsfield
Johanna DAVIS 36 Fishponds, Gloucester coal miners wife
CALEB 11 Mangotsfield, Gloucester
Caroline 9 Beaufont (Gwent)
Ellen 5 Mangotsfield
Mary Ann 2 Mangotsfield
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oh golly thank you again...looks like i strike it gold tonight ..you are so helpful ..love i got to say Lynne
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Looks as if this is Caleb's bpt and his parents marriage from familypilot search
Caleb DAVIS
31/10/1869 Mangotsfield, Gloucester
parents George DAVIS & Joanna
marriage
14/3/1869 Kingswood (near Bristol) Gloucester
George DAVIS age 20 father John
Joanna LYNES age 25 father Michael
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RG13; Piece: 2390; Folio: 181; Page: 21.
1901
St George Bristol
7 Roseberry Park Bristol
Caleb Davies 31 Railway Packer (Plate) b Bristol
Elizabeth Davies 26 wife b S Jacob Bristol
Herbert Davies 3 b S George Bristol
Elsie H Davies 6 Months "
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:)Gosh yes we are on the money here..wow thank you
certainly striking gold must take a lottery ticket tomorrow.oh love the bike...by the way lol ..thank you so much cheers Lynne
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Elsie Lillian DAVIS
ch. 3/10/1900 St. Luke, Barton Hill, Bristol Gloucester
parents named Caleb William DAVIS & Elizabeth
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Elizabeth Emma SMITH
bn 23/8/1874
Ch. 27/9/1874 St. Phillips & St Jacob's Bristol
father Thomas SMITH mother Caroline
1881c 11 Berkeley Street, Bristol St. George
Thomas SMITH 26 Mason
Caroline 27
ELIZABETH 6
Alfred 4
Thomas 3
Florence 10 months
all born Bristol
there are a number of marriages on Free BMD
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/
for Thomas SMITH to Caroline so couldn't say which Caroline he married. their daughter Elizabeth Emma SMITH's birth certificate would give her maiden mother's name Sep q 1874 Clifton 6a 161
There is a possibility on familysearch pilot
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
Thomas SMITH
Caroline BURNS
13/4/1874 St. Nicholas, Gloucester
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I would like to thank you all for the help you have given for my friend..Through all the help we have now established
the right data... :) It is marvelous what comes once we ask.and how family stories and data get lost or embelished thru the gens...i have found this many times Thank you for your wonderful help
cheers from Australia ..LynneR
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My PC has been poorly for a few days, but has made a good recovery - I hope ::)
So back to Caleb.
1871 Class: RG10; Piece: 5315; Folio: 13; Page: 20
23 Morris Houses. Newtown. Aberwystwyth. Parish of Beaufort.
George Davies 28 Steel worker b Bristol
Johannah Davies wife 26 b Bristol
Caleb Davies son 1 b Bristol
William Lince 21 brother in law Steel worker b Bristol
MODIFIED WRONG MARRIAGE
I would have thought Johanna was a Lince if William is George`s brother in law, but I can`t find a marriage, the closest is this one.
Marriages Dec 1862 All names on same page.
Davies George Hereford 6a 373
Davis Johannah Westbury S 6a 373
Gladwin Richard Westbury S 6a 373
Harding Thomas Cornelius Westbury S. 6a 373
Warr Mary Westbury S 6a 373
1881 RG11; Piece: 2446; Folio: 30; Page: 6
This definately looks like the right family. Beaufort is the link. George is still alive but must be away from home on the night.
Staple Hill Road, Mangotsfield Gloucestershire.
Johanna Davis 36 marr. coal miners wife.b Fishponds
Caleb Davis 11 son b Mangotsfield
Caroline Davis 9 b Beaufort Wales
Ellen Davis 5 Mangotsfield.
Mary Ann Davis 2
Can`t seem to locate him in 1891 ???
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:) Thank you for the information..
i am sending it all on for her to sort out..i do appreciate all the help ..things can get very frustrating doing this family stuff..especially when the computer starts playing up ..
so that you again cheers Lynne :D
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Hi wilcoxon,
Post (No. 5) possible marriage in 1869 for George DAVIS to Joanna LYNES, finding Joanna (1844) Bristol & William (1850) Bristol together on 1861/1851 census with father named Michael may help
Don't have full transcript but there appears to be a LINES family
1861 Gloucester
Michael LINES 1821
Caroline 1823
Johannah LINES 1844
John 1846
Mary Ann 1849
Isaac 1851
William LINES 1854
this could be the family in 1851
1851 census Gloucester[/u]
Caroline LINES 1823
Joanna 1843
Mary Ann 1849
John 1850
1851 census Gloucester
Michael LYNES 1823
This is the marriage entry ref. on FreeBMD
Mar q 1869 Keynsham (Gloucester & Somerset) vol. 5c page no. 1014
George DAVIS Joanna LYNES
marriage entry FreeBMD
Sep q 1843 Clifton 11 343 (names on same page)
Michael LINES Caroline STRANGE
FreeBMD doesn't help much with births of Joanna & William LINCE or LYNES, theres a Male LYNES Clifton 1849 There are these
John LINES Keynsham 1846
Mary Ann LINES 1848 Clifton
Isaac LINES 1851 Clifton
from IGI familysearch
christenings Mangotsfield, Gloucester
parents named Michael & Caroline
John LINES 15/3/1846
William 26/6/1853
Hi LynneR
Hope the information proves helpful let us know how your friend gets on when she's sorted it all out - Good Luck :)
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Full transcription for Ladyhawks find. I think she`s found the right family. Living in Maple Hill, the same place as 1881
1861 RG9; Piece: 1699; Folio: 54; Page: 17
Maple Hill, Mangotsfield
Michael LINES 1821 coal miner b Mangotsfield
Caroline 1823 Laundress b Stapleton
Johannah LINES 1844 ""
John 1846 coalminer b Stapleton
Mary Ann 1849 b Mangotsfield
Isaac 1851 "
William LINES 1854 b Stapleton
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Thank you Wilcoxon for adding extra info. for LINES family on 1861 census :)
As George DAVIS was not with Joanna & family in 1881 I think this could be him
RG11/5272/58/13
Cwmdows District, Monmouth
George DAVIES Lodger Marr. age 34 (1847) Mangostfield occ. coal miner
Difficult to narrow 1861 census without George's mothers name as there are many George DAVIS/DAVIES in Gloucester with a father named John :-\
there are a couple of possibly christenings from IGI family search
George DAVIS 23/7/1848 Mangotsfield Gloucester
father John mother Eliza
George DAVIS 21/1/1844 St. Philip & St. Jacob Gloucester
father John mother Caroline
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Hello i have sent this extra data on thank you for friend to sort ..once aghain thank you for your help cheers Lynne
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you were looking for help for a friend about George Davis (Davies) &Johanna Lines (Lynes) - do you have any further information please - these are my great grandparents and I have just begun researching them. thanks very much thornbury1
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Hi Thornbury,
Welcome to RootsChat.
I am very sorry but LyndeR email's have stopped working :'(
I have done a search online but I have not been able to find an alternative email or a way of contacting her.
Sometime's old members do pop back up, which I am hoping the Lynde will do. Perhaps you would like to start of a "new topic" with where you are upto with your research, perhaps lynde will find your post :)
Regards
Sarah