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Title: ***Completed***Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: Cassandra77 on Monday 08 November 10 09:50 GMT (UK)
Hello everyone,

I am currently a bit stumped.  In my ancestor's birth cert, it lists Edward's father as being something.  And he was a 'master' at it.  They lived in Dudley in 1860's so I was trying to guess in accordance with the industry at that place during that time period.  Joseph was a farm labourer in his youth.

What does Joseph's accupation look like to you?
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Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 08 November 10 10:23 GMT (UK)
Well at 200% it looks like Hosier master!   never heard of one of those - but you never know!!  You can see the dot on the i quite high up when you enlarge it.   and the s looks clearer - so  . . .

good luck and welcome to Rootschat - lots of help available from all the highly skilled people round here!  (I'm not one of them!!)

wiggy    ;)
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: JenB on Monday 08 November 10 10:58 GMT (UK)
The address given is Wolverhampton Street, Dudley.

Searching the 1861 census, there is a Joseph Green, 'milliner hosier' living in Wolverhampton Street, Dudley.

RG 9 / 2055 / 54 / 20.

Is this the right family?

Jennifer
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: nainmaddie on Monday 08 November 10 11:04 GMT (UK)

This registrar cannot spell !!  Please see the word Father.  I am sure it is Hosier as previously described. 

If I remember rightly it is to do with stockings.  A Hosier sells stockings

With the previous answer for the previous census, it makes sense

Nainmaddie
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 08 November 10 11:07 GMT (UK)
Makes lots of sense - just never heard of someone described as a hosier master before - hosiery yes! Hosier yes - hosier master ?. . .   

Still first time for everything!!    Must be a master at making hosiery/stockings   ;D

Wiggy
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: JenB on Monday 08 November 10 11:10 GMT (UK)

This registrar cannot spell !!  Please see the word Father. 

 ??? The word father is correctly spelt. There is a downstroke on the right-hand-side of the cross-stroke on the letter 'F' which looks like an extra letter but isn't  ;D 
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering **completed**
Post by: Cassandra77 on Monday 08 November 10 11:12 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone for your responses.

Oh man, what are the men in my family going to say to this?!  Joseph made hose.  And eventually became a farmer in Nebraska.  What a huge leap in career.

I am working on a huge project (part funded if you can believe it when you consider all the cuts that are going on, but anyway) ...and it was very necessary that I got that job correct.

Now I know what to research....

Thanks again,

Cassandra

PS.  I should have logged onto Rootschat over a year ago when I was starting my research.  Your expertise has been wonderful.
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: stonechat on Monday 08 November 10 11:13 GMT (UK)
Master when applied to an occupation often implied that he was his own boss

Whereas journeyman meant he worked for someone else
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: Wiggy on Monday 08 November 10 11:15 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Stonechat - well worth remembering!

Wiggy
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: KGarrad on Monday 08 November 10 11:44 GMT (UK)
Might be worth an email to The Worshipful Company of Framework Knitters?


(no www) frameworkknitters.co.uk

That is the City of London Guild that dealt with things such as hosiery
Title: Re: Hooter? Hosier? (master) Difficulties deciphering
Post by: Cassandra77 on Monday 08 November 10 12:07 GMT (UK)
Thanks KGerrard

I have had a look at their website and have sent an email.  Apparently, someone has written a book on the history of the Framework Knitters.  I shall make that mine very soon.

Again, you have been a tremendous help.

Cassandra