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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Sussex => Topic started by: jpankfolly on Thursday 04 November 10 09:50 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone...
please can anyone help me in my search for any information on a relation of mine john selsby...
He was born around 1826[ all depends on what records you look at] in bolney sussex...
I have managed,with the help of the census,to get back to possibly 1841 ???
but for some reason i lose him on the 1851 census...
He was married to jane ? and she came from cuckfield sussex..Any information on their marriage would be great too.
many many thanks
jacqui
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Could you give us the full details (or at least the ref) of 1861, so we can see the full household then and try and work back?
Thanks
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the details on the 1861 census is as follows..
JOHN SELSBY[sometimes spelt silsby]
ABT 1828
BORN BOLNEY,SUSSEX
LIVING IN CUCKFIELD,SUSSEX
other household members are...
JANE SELSBY 29
JOHN 6
JANE 4
MARY A 3
SARAH 16 MNTHS...
On the 1871 census there is a daughter AGNES aged 12 but she doesn't appear on the previous census aged 2 ???
Also mary A and sister sarah do not appear with this family on the 1871 census.
many thanks
jacqui
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A possible for the marriage
Oct/Nov/Dec 1853
Cuckfield 2b 217
John Silsbey / one of brides on same page Jane Chatfield
Marriage cert would give father's names and occupations and thus make them easier to find in earlier censuses
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thank you
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They married at Holy Trinity, Cuckfield. Bachelor and Spinster. Oct 15th 1853 both of full age and of Cuckfield. He is a labourer. Both made their mark Fathers John Silsby and William Chatfield. Both labourers. Witnesses William Pilbeam (mark) and Mary Silsby who signed.
Andrea
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wow thank you
jacqui
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Baptisms to John and Jane at Cuckfield
John Oct 1 1854
Jane Sophia Sep 7 1856
Mary Ann Mar 7 1858
Sarah Agnes Apr 1 1860
Harriet Louisa Feb 13 1862
George Jun 5 1864
William Aug 5 1866
Albert Oct 4 1868
Emma Frances Oct 3 1871
there may be more but I stopped at that point. I am afraid that some of them obviously died if they don't appear in the later census.
Edward & Eliza Silsby are also having children from 1860 on (first one is Sarah Sep 12 1860 so may muddle with your Sarah) and Henry and Mary Silsby are there too having children.
Andrea
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thank you Andrea for taking the trouble to write all that for me..
I know John and Jane were still having children in 1877 as my henry John was born then and he later went on to marry Emma elizabeth Turner in 1900 and the daughters they had were named after plants!!!!!! :)
jacqui
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Must have missed one as Robert dies age 2 and a half in Jan 1871
Other burials - children of John and Jane are:
John age 9 Jul 3 1864
George age 4 Feb 16 1868 address Old Furnace
Emma Frances age 19 Jul 19 1890 address Little London
It seems possible that the name may have become Selby.
John Selby age 82 died Cuckfield Infirmary buried 18 Nov 1905
Burial for Albert Selby age 32 Jun 6 1914 died in Hellingly Asylum.
Andrea
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how wonderful,thanks again Andrea...
Hellingly Asylum..is that what used to be called the work house or was it a seperate place only my husband's follingtons had a long association with the workhouse there...
jacqui
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I am sure you will get lots of info if you google Hellingly. Asylum would tend to imply mental health problems. It was not a workhouse as far as I know. Built as an asylum I think.
Andrea
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poor man...
i didn't know when the poorhouse stopped being so and thought maybe they used the same building after it ceased to be a poor house...just a thought but yes i will google Hellingly and see what i can find.
Thanks again for all your help..it's much appreciated.
jacqui :D
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I note that Sarah Agnes Selsby married Thomas Jennings, both of Cuckfield, on July 16th 1881.
And that Mary Ann Selsby married George Frederick Ruewell, both of Cuckfield, on May 1st 1880. And, strangely on that same Mayday, Warden Henry Starley also married Alice Gryner (other spellings occur) and one of my grandfathers was called Warden Selsby. That Christian name must have been more common a century ago, but to find a Warden and a Selsby getting married on the same (May)day at the same rural location seems intriguing. Especially if your grandfather is called Warden Selsby.
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Hi and welcome
Warden is a common name in Cuckfield as there were very rich landowners of that name in the area. Francis Warden lived at Butlers Green House and Warden Sergison at Cuckfield Park. If you google them you will find a lot of information and I am sure many of the local people tried to curry favour by naming their children after them even years later.