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Title: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Friday 22 January 10 23:50 GMT (UK)
hi rootschatters

just wondered if you could answer a question.....

my gr gr gr grandfather was born is glassary, argyll.

when he was 74 he died at burnside cottage, argyll(1814-1888)

what i want to know if burnside cottage still exists?and are there any pics of it.

my gr gr gr grandmother also died there(1823-1889)

if the cottage is still there, then i would love to visit it!

thans in advance for your help

regards

paul

Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: Jool on Friday 22 January 10 23:54 GMT (UK)
Paul, If this is the right cottage you may be in luck, it's available to rent as a holiday cottage.  I just did an internet search and up it popped.

http://www.selfcatering-directory.co.uk/uploads/estate/selfcatering/self-catering-8546.htm

Jool
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: Jool on Friday 22 January 10 23:58 GMT (UK)
Or maybe it's this one http://www.btinternet.com/~Pamela.Mackinnon/pub/

I think you will have to search the net to work out which one it may be as it seems a popular name

Jool
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: Piglet01 on Saturday 23 January 10 06:45 GMT (UK)
Hello

To narrow the search down the easiest way would be to check the census records and check which other properties are nearest.  If he was at that property for the 1841 census - which can be acessed at www.freecen.org.uk, it give the opportunity to check the houses on the enumerators route.  This would narrow down and help pinpoint the cottage.

Regards,   Steve
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 23 January 10 10:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Paul

As you have seen from Steve's searches, there are likely to be a number of properties with the same name. It might help people searching if you added a few more details. By the sounds of it, you have the death certs for your ggggrandparents. Which parish did Burnside Cottage show in on the death certs? What were their names? Anything you can add might help with the searches that people may do  :)

Monica
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 23 January 10 10:47 GMT (UK)
Is this their 1881 entry?

Dugald Blair 65, House Carpenter & Joiner
Jeane Blair 57

Address: Burnside Cottage, South Knapdale

I found this link http://genealogicalexpedition2008.blogspot.com/2009_08_01_archive.html  If you look at the diary entry for Friday, September 19, 2008, it includes a photo and details for a Burnside Cottage. It is in the right area. Whilst not linked to your family, it would be interesting if it turned out to be connected to the same property  :)

As Steve suggest, looking at the whole page of a census entry will give you clues regarding surrounding addresses to help you better locate the actual cottage.

Monica
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: MonicaL on Saturday 23 January 10 11:42 GMT (UK)
Might well be the right area  :) This looks to be Dugald and Jean in 1871:

Dugald Blair 51, river carpenter
Jane Blair 49
Ann Blair 24
Duncan Blair 19
Sarah Blair 15
Jane Blair 12
Mary Blair 10

Address: Inverneil House (burnside Cottage), South Knapdale
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Sunday 24 January 10 19:44 GMT (UK)
hi guys.....

thank you all so much for all your replys!!

i have 1 census document - 1881 census

it shows the parish as - glassary.

does this help any

regards

paul
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 24 January 10 19:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Paul

Does the 1881 census entry match the entry I posted for 1881? Also, is it the right family in 1871 from the other census entry above?

Monica  :)
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Sunday 24 January 10 20:20 GMT (UK)
the census i have is as follows


Mary Kerr, wife of Ship master, aged 58 born Glassary Argyllshire at Burnside Cottage, Glassary Argyll
together with Mary Kerr aged    17, Mary Kerr    28, Dugald McCallum 23, Janet McCallum 20, Janet Murray aged 14
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: MonicaL on Sunday 24 January 10 20:57 GMT (UK)
Completely the wrong family I had  :P

I can't see any trace of Burnside Cottage in the censuses before 1881. It shows from this date up to 1901.

In the 1881 census, there are 5 households showing as living at a 'Burnside Cottage' in Glassary, including the Kerrs.

Monica
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Sunday 24 January 10 23:04 GMT (UK)
This is really strange!!

Has anyone got any other ideas of where this could be?

I'm baffled!!

Regards everyone,paul
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Monday 25 January 10 23:30 GMT (UK)
can anyone help me further on this?

best regards

paul
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Thursday 28 January 10 10:26 GMT (UK)
im still no further forward on this one!!hehe
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: Piglet01 on Thursday 28 January 10 11:06 GMT (UK)
Hello Paul

Your only options left - I think, are,

http://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/boundary_map_page.jsp?u_id=10091640&c_id=10107260

Use their boundy map facility and zoom down.  The parish remains in pink and you spend time looking around and seeing if there is more than 1 Burnside Cottage in the parish.

The other option is to go to the National Library of Scotlands map page and use their zoomable 6" to 1 mile search.

http://www.nls.uk/maps/os/6inch/index.html

Good luck.

Regards,  Steve
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: Istrice on Thursday 04 February 10 13:36 GMT (UK)
Hello Paul,

If you Google "Ordnance Survey", and go to the OS search page, type in Kilmichael Glassary.  The map that appears should show a village about 3 miles north of Lochgilphead, and just east of the A816 Oban road.  Between this road and the village, is the hamlet of Bridgend.

If you then go onto the "Old-Maps.co.uk" site and type in Kilmichael Glassary, three much older maps will be visible c1870 under the main map that is shown.  These old maps show Bridgend as a much smaller grouping of houses.  This may be the Bridgend that you are looking for.

In addition to the above if you visit the "Geograph" site, and again type in Kilmichael Glassary, you should gain access to 3 photographs of Bridgend as it is at present.

Hope this helps you in your quest.

Istrice
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: museum man 2 on Tuesday 06 April 10 14:54 BST (UK)
Manager of Castle House Museum Dunoon here.

In view of your other Dunoon connection there was a Burnside in Dunoon. Is this the one you are looking for?
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Tuesday 06 April 10 15:15 BST (UK)
Hiya,no,burnside cottage was on church road in alloa.

Can't wait to see what you find out about wansbeck

Reggards

Paul
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Wednesday 02 June 10 14:04 BST (UK)
hey guys, i have looked at the 1881 census, and burnside cottage seems to be next to the lochgair in.

i have tried to look the lochgair up on the internet but cant find it.

if i could find out were the lochgair inn was, then i shall find burnside cottage.

cheers

paul
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: yokerbrian on Wednesday 02 June 10 15:06 BST (UK)
Paul,

This may be the map your looking for - http://www.nls.uk/maps/os/25inch/view/?sid=74481375

It shows the hamlet of Bridgend just south of Kilmichael Glassary.

If you zoom in on Bridgend you can see the Inn marked

Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Wednesday 02 June 10 16:20 BST (UK)
hiya, thanks for getting back to me.

i see the map says that there is an inn, it just doesnt name the inn.

i just wish it said on the census wer exactly burnside cottage was,

on the census, it has a few other houses, then burnside cottage,then the lochgair inn.

cheers

paul
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: AussieHutsonGrant on Tuesday 19 October 10 11:22 BST (UK)
Hi there.  I have an ancestor, Alexander Grant, 23yo, farm servant at Burnside.  Is this the same Burnside.  If so, does anyone have a map or something I can see of the farm?  Cheers, Linda Hutson (Grant) Western Australia
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: paulsplace2009 on Tuesday 19 October 10 16:11 BST (UK)
hi aussie

my ancestors lived in burnside cottage.

where have you seen that your ancestor was a servant?
is he on a census?
was it burnside cottage in argyll?

my relatives, the kerrs..owned the cottage.

thanks

paul
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: AussieHutsonGrant on Saturday 23 October 10 01:26 BST (UK)
Hi Paul.
It seems I have the wrong area completely!   :o
Title: Re: burnside cottage!!!???!!!
Post by: Glasvaar on Wednesday 03 November 10 16:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Paul

I live in Ford, Argyll, which is just up the glen from Glassary, or Kilmichael.
The maps that would help you are the victorian ordnance survey maps of Scotland, sheet 37 covers Kilmichael Glassary.
These maps can be purchased from Caledonian maps, enquiries {--at--} caledonianmaps.co.uk, usually they are £5.95 each plus p&p.
If you need any more help with local history, get in touch




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