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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: sheilajohnson21 on Monday 01 November 10 08:32 GMT (UK)
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Hi All
Can anyone help me track down what became of Richard Goldsmith.
He was born in 1832 in Ramsgate to Edward Goldsmith and Mary Jarman at the age of 12 he was imprisoned for 6months and whipped for larcency and not learning his lesson again in 1848 at the age of 17 he was put on on trail for larcency on the 30 March 1948 and was given 7 years transportation.
He was onboard the Minden on the 21st July 1851 and arrived in Western Australia on the 14th October 1851.
I can not find out what became of him, whether he served his sentence, married and stayed in Australia or came back to England, i have looked for him but cannot find any trace.
So perhaps someone with a bit more knowlege than me could possibly find what became of him.
Thank you in advance for any help you can give me
Sheila. ???
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Richard Goldsmith
Convict No. 899
Ship - Minden
arrived 14th Oct 1851
born 1831
Unmarried
Occupation Shoemaker
sentence date 30 Mar 1848
sentence place Sandwich, Kent, England
Length of sentence 7yrs
Ticket of leave granted 14th Oct 1851
Conditional Pardon 21st Jan 1854
http://www.fremantleprison.com.au/Pages/Convict.aspx
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Many thanks Logan H for letting me know about the conditional pardon.
Any idea what might have happened to him after his pardon,
Thanks
Sheila.
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http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/con-wa4.html
Ship Minden - details, convict Richard Goldsmith.
West Aust - convict records research guide (recommend)
http://www.slwa.wa.gov.au/dead_reckoning/government_archival_records/a-c/convicts
The Emancipation of Convicts in Australia.
Ticket of Leave - definition.
Conditional Pardon - definition.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/res-11.html
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I have just had some information sent me from another source about a Richard Sydney Goldsmith, not sure about the middle name but could possibly be him.
Found in the Australian Cemetary Index 1808 - 2007 age 24 birth around 1830, which fits, and that he died on the 13 August 1854 / cemetary Hobart St. Davids Anglican, Tasmania.
So i am assuming if this his him that after his Conditional Pardon on the 21 January 1854 he moved on to Hobart, Tasmania and unfortunately died 8 months later.
I have tried to find this information but have been unable to do so,can any one help in confirming this and finding out more information about this death.
Thank you once again.
Sheila.
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Hi Sheila,
Death notice for Richard Sidney GOLDSMITH http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a9n/ I think he may have been part of the extensive GOLDSMITH family in Tasmania. The primary online source for Tas is at http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8
I can't see any events recorded for your Richard in WA, and your problem is that convicts sometimes changed their names and/or moved on to other states after attaining freedom. As he had a conditional pardon, he would not have been able to return to England, but this is not to say that it never happened.
Will keep snooping around for you.
Debra :)
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Hi Shiela,
Do you know the occupation of Richard's father Edward?
Debra :)
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Hi Sheila,
False alarm, this Richard Sidney was born in Sydney in 1830 to (Captain?) Edward GOLDSMITH and Elizabeth - I think her maiden surname was DAY.
Debra :)
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Hi Debra
Thanks for looking for Richard for me, his father was a mariner, but from the last message you sent you have proved this is not him.
Thanks very much for that, back to the drawing board.
Sheila.
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There is a Richard Goldsmith in South Australia, however his date of birth is out by 4 years, c: 1827 and his occupation is listed as a Labourer not Shoemaker. (unsure, I don't think this is your man).
SA Marriage index.
Richard GOLDSMITH (age 32) married to Mary Ann MCCARTHY (age 23) 16/7/1859,
Bride's father Thomas MCCARTHY,place - Res of Mr Reed BARTON, District - Ang, Sym - AS, Book/page - 39/267
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Thanks for that, not sure if this could be him.
In the meantime i have found a death on the BDM nsw.gov site , it is for a Richard G. Goldsmith died 1858, this could be him so have ordered the death certificate to see if it has more information, fingers crossed, will take at least 2 weeks for this to arrive.
I will let you know if this is the right Richard Goldsmith, so in the meantime thanks for you help.
Sheila.