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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Monaghan => Topic started by: vvbg on Saturday 30 October 10 21:48 BST (UK)
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I'm looking for any info on Bernard Grant who married Elizabeth Pringle.
They lived in Monaghan, but don't know if that's where they married.
I know they had at least 3 children: Annie, Robert, Bernard, but nothing else.
They were RC and maybe married around 1855.
Any info would be greatly appreciated
Cheers
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Hi maries163,
There is a Bernard Grant listed on Griffith's Valuation in the townland of Drumass, Parish of Inishkeen, Union of Dundalk, Barony of Farney, County of Monaghan. There are other Grant's recorded in same area.
May be worth a look:
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation
Cheers,
Janet.
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Hi Janet,
Thanks for your help.
Yes, that could be him.
Cheers,
Marie
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Hi Marie,
There are references to the family that your researching on the LDS website:
http://www.familysearch.org
or
https://beta.familysearch.org
Cheers,
Janet.
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Since they are RC and married before 1864, the marriage will not be included in the civil registers, and you will need to know the parish the marriage took place in. You might be able to establish a possible location within the county by following details of the children's birth. Some of these appear on the extracted records on familysearch :
Bernard Grant / 12 Apr 1871 / Monaghan / Ref: v 6-2 p 496
parents : Bernard Grant / Eliza Pringle
You can use the reference details to narrow down the correct BMD index details required to order a birth cert, which will include the place of birth (usually a townland or town).
There's also a Thomas Grant born to parents Bryan Grant & Elizabeth Pringles in 1867 - could be a transcript error of alternate name for Bernard.
Shane
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Hi Shane & Janet,
Thank you both for your replies. Will follow up all your suggestions.
Shane, I think the Bryan Grant link may also be right as my great grandfather
was Thomas Grant born around 1867.
Cheers,
Marie
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full details for Thomas :
Name: Thomas Grant
Birth Date: 16 Apr 1867
Birthplace: 0526, Castleblayney , Monaghan
Father's Name: Bryan Grant
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Pringles
here the link to the familysearch
Irish Extracted Birth Collection (http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1584963)
Shane
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Hi Shane,
Thanks again for your help.
Will now try to find which parish
Bernard & Elizabeth were married.
Thanks again.
Marie
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Hi all,
Looking for help with my family again.
I've established Bernard Grant live in Castleblaney, married to Eliza Pringle, and his occupation was a plasterer.
He married Eliza abt. 1856, was RC and i think his parish was Muckno.
I tried to get records from this parish but they are unable to help me.
He had several children including my great grandfather Thomas.
His wife, my gg grandmother Eliza Pringle, died i think abt. 1882.
Would be so grateful if anyone out there could help me as BDM records of Monaghan
are quite difficult to find.
Cheers,
Marie
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Marie,
As well as Thomas the family search site gives two other sons, Robert 16 Dec 1864 and Bernard 12 Apr 1871.
Regards
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The Irish Times website has maps of RC parishes, and also details of where various records are available and dates that are covered. see : Monaghan RC Parishes (http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/monaghanrc.htm)
Records for Muckno parish go back to 1835. This parish includes the town of Castleblayney.
Shane
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Hi Kerswell,
I found the other two sons on family search also, but thanks for taking the time & trouble to find them
Marie
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Thanks Shane,
Will now go and investigate further.
Marie
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Hi Marie,
I am researching an Annie Louisa GRANT day of Bernard GRANT & Eliza PRINGLE. Have seen your notes and think I have found their marriage in Scotland. It is in the LDS Family Search.
ELIZABETH PRINGLE Pedigree
Spouse: BARRNY GRANT Family
Marriage: 12 JAN 1852 Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland
Batch No.: M117897
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Hi again Marie.
Have been into Scotlands People and saved the marriage for Elizabeth PRINGLE to Barnny GRANT 1852, then did a childrens search and found a result with the parents as Bernard GRANT and Elizabeth (Eliza) PRINGLE, these are in the Catholic marriages.
** Have attached the Banns / Mar page for you as well...................
1 14/02/1856 17/02/1856 GRANT JAMES - BERNARD GRANT/ELIZABETH (ELIZA) PRINGLE M HAWICK, SS MARY AND DAVID
2 14/02/1856 17/02/1856 GRANT JAMES - BERNARD GRANT/ELIZABETH (ELIZA) PRINGLE M HAWICK, SS MARY AND DAVID
3 29/06/1858 04/07/1858 GRANT MARY - BERNARD GRANT/ELIZABETH (ELIZA) PRINGLE F HAWICK, SS MARY AND DAVID
4 29/06/1858 04/07/1858 GRANT MARY - BERNARD GRANT/ELIZABETH (ELIZA) PRINGLE F HAWICK, SS MARY AND DAVID
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I think this is Eliza PRINGLE in the 1851 census
12 Oconnel Str, Hawick, Roxburghshire
James Pringle 43
wife Beatrice Pringle 43
Helen Pringle 14
daughter Elizabeth Pringle, 13, born Hawick, Roxb, Woollen Hosiery Seamstress
Robert Pringle 11
Isabella Pringle 9
Thomas Pringle 7
Margaret Pringle 2