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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Dumfriesshire => Topic started by: sosh on Saturday 30 October 10 03:45 BST (UK)
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Evening All,
I am hoping that someone may know something about Bethel Cottage in Greenbrea, Dumfries, and its occupants between the years 1904-1906.
Also does anyone know exactly where Bethel Cottage was/is?
I am searching for anything on a Jane Paul who lived at Bethel Cottage when her daughter Catherine was born in 1904. She was still living there in 1906 when she married to Mr Charters.
There is a bit of a mystery to the whole thing including a "Register of Corrected Entries" attached to the daughters birth record.
Any stories or info would go a long way to putting the puzzel together.
Many thanks
Sue
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there is a bethel cottage in greenbrae loaning, dumfries
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Sue
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Dear Sue - Are you still researching my grandmother JANE PAUL ? I am now back into my research too.Please bring me up to date with everything.I think you were researching for a male member of the family.God Bless.Barbara ( Izzard )
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Hello Sue,
Not sure whether this will hep.
I was curious and, looked up the Dumfries & District Post Office Directory for 1911 & 1912. Only found a Matthew PAUL living in Greenbrae Loaning (drain contractor) no mention of Bethel Cottage, though.
As akc mentioned, there is a Bethel Cottage in Greenbrae Loaning. Had a look at the Google maps. I remember the cottage, as I passed it every day, going to primary school.
cupcake
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Many thanks for yourm reply.I was formerly on this site some years ago and Sue,from Australia,was researching for a male memebr of the family over there.My mother was born in Bethel Cottage in the Loaning in 1902.Her father was Sgt Thomas McAllister who died in Gaza servibg with the K.O.S.B.mY MOTHER pEGGY pAUYL (
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Sorry - I had problems with the computer.My mother ( Peggy ) Margaret Paul left Dumfries to go into service in Yorkshire and subsequently trained to be a Salvation Army officer. I was hoping to update my info with Sue from Australia.The saddest thing that I as a Genealogist have ever had to do was to enter the details of my middle son's death in 2005.Bob a soldier was discharged medically after a head injury accident on exercise.He died during a seizure aged 43 years.One thing that I am desperate to find are photos or any details of the shop on the corner of Balmoral Road and the Lockerbie Road.My Gt Grandmother Elizabeth McGeorge McAllister was the owner.She died in a house called DELVINSIDE and again I would love any photos/info on that house if possible,.Each saturday my mother had to go to the shop to collect e few pence which we now know was maintenance foir her mother from her father.I didn't start researching until after my parents deaths so they never knew what contacts I had made..My mother had three half sisters and a half brother whom she never met.We had a wonderful reunion at my house with them a few years ago.Her half brother was the image of her.
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Hello Babs12345656,
Was reading your post.
I remember a shop at the corner of Balmoral Road and Lockerbie Road. I think two sisters owned the shop and the name Duff rings a bell.But, that would be around 1950/1960. I was born in Lockerbie Road.
Not sure about the house Delvinside but, will see if I can find any info.
cupcake
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Once again - Thank you so much for your interest. I remember with great happiness the holidays my sister and I spent with Aunt Lil ( JARDINE ) and Uncle John and their family at The Stoop.Uncle John used to keep greyhounds and we would go with him to exercise them each day further down Lockerbie Road near to the John Peel centre but the opposite side of the road..Their son John Jardine was a folk singer.He died earlier this year.
Going back to Greenbrae Loaning - Aunt Nettie ( CARRICK ) and Uncle Walter lived in Milburn Road and then at the corner of Greenbrae Loaning next to the Butchers.
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I have fond memories of Lockerbie Road and the Stoop. Remember the names you mention, too.
Back to the house Delvinside, do you know the area it was in? Might have been a Nursing home or hospital.
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No - I am not sure.I have tried to locate it by searching on the name but no luck there either.I will have a look at the file again later today.I am truly grateful for your help.Bye for now.
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Further to my previous reply.
Thomas McAllister was a bandsman and also worked at Grieves ( Printers ) before losing his life in the war.His father was James McAllister who was a master Blacksmith - they lived in Lindsey Place and also in Greenbrae Loaning at one point.
The photo is of Jane Howland ( nee PAUL ) outside Carricklea at Wanlockhead and was taken about 1935-40 I would guess.
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I don't seem to be of much help. The places you mention, I do remember. Also remember the Jardines, too.
When did your Gt Grandmother Elizabeth McGeorge McAllister die and do you know where she is buried.
cupcake
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Have you read the Register of Corrected Entries? It should tell you more. If you have got the certificate on Scotland's People, what you do to get the link to the entry in the RCE is to scroll down the page where you will see where to click. This link is not obvious unless you know it's there.
Graham.
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Thank you Graham.How do I access the RCE ? Also I haven't got her certificate.She died on 2/2/29 at a house cal;led DELVINSIDE,Greenbrae.I have yet to find out where the house is.Elizabeth McGeorge McAllister was also a wine merchant / grocer in her own right. and had a shop on the corner iof Balmoral Road and the Lockerbie Road.It is now not there but there may be photos somewhere of it.She married James McAllister ( Blacksmith ) 18/6/1875 at Greenbrae Loaning.in 1876 they were at Crown Close.High St and by 1879 they were at Lindsey Place,Greenbrae.
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I went to the library today.
The Valuation Roll of the Burgh of Dumfries for the year 1921-1922 gives the following information:
Shop - 44 Lockerbie Road - Mrs Elizabeth McAllister - Tennant - Yearly Rent or Value £13.0.0
House - 4 Balmoral Road - Mrs Elizabeth McAllister - Tennant - Yearly Rent or Value £13.18.0
So, it appears she lived in Balmoral Road.
No mention of the Delvinside. Makes me think she died, perhaps with family or in a hospital.
Had a quick look for the house in Balmoral Road. Number 4 is opposite Bruno's Restaurant.
cupcake
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Once more please accept my gratitude for your help.When I have a few moments I will double check the details that I have for her.I think that at the time of my mother's birth in Bethel Cottage the Pauls and the McAllisters lived next door to each other in Greenbrae Loaning.
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Just had a quick look on Scotland's People and there was no death for Elizabeth McAllister in Dumfries for 1922. There are 5 others, but in Glasgow City/Lanark.
Did Elizabeth re-marry?
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The marriage of Elizabeth was the 18th June 1875 at Greenbrae Loaning.I will now check the death and come back to you.
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Her death was 2nd February 1929 at Delvinside,Greenbrae.Dumfries.Later today I will get the lever arch file and look at the hard copies of my info and will get back to you.
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Stupid me. I thought it was 1922.
Found her death on Scotland's People and I can see it is Delvinside, Greenbrae. Just need to find where the house is/was.
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Found Delvinside on the 1928/1929 Valuation Roll.
The address is Lockerbie Road.
It is a tad confusing. The Valuation Roll gives the house in Lockerbie Road and the Street Directory as Greenbrae.
The only thing I think it might be The houses at the top of Lockerbie Road, were Greenbrae, which is opposite Greenbrae Loaning.
I know a chap who was a postman, he may be able to shed some light on it.