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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: suelesterry on Wednesday 27 October 10 18:33 BST (UK)
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Hi
I wondered if anyone had any information about Alvaston Hall It is on the 1911 census in Alvaston Street Derby but at some time it was demolished. I`ve lived on the street since 1960. The ony sign of it is the nearby street name of Old Hall Avenue
Regards
Sue
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Hi Sue,
There are a few references to Alvaston Hall on 'google'. It seems to have been demolished in 1935
http://lh.matthewbeckett.com/lh_complete_list.html#Derbyshire although this site http://www.curiousfox.com/history/derbyshire_2.html thinks it was demolished earlier.
It looks as if Herbert Dagley lived there around 1886 when probate was granted for his will: http://www.wirksworth.org.uk/W05.htm
There are probably further references if you want to trawl through 'google'.
Jill
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Hi Jill
Thanks for that. I looked in Google but didn`t get anywhere. What did you search or did you go through a lot more search results than me?
In the 1911 census Smiths were living there so the curious Fox answer makes sense.
It seems photos are impossible to come by.
I`ll look into Herbert Dagley
Many thanks
Sue
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Hi Sue,
I searched 'Alvaston Hall, Derby' but had to trawl through a few pages to find those links - unfortunately there is an Hotel in Cheshire with the same name!
Jill
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Hi Jill
Yes I`d noticed that. I was on the lap top which I`m very slow on so after a few pages I gave it up as a lost cause thinking there were no references. Thanks once again.
Sue
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Hi
Herbert Dagley was buried in the Churchyard of St Michael and All Angels Church, Church Street, Alvaston on 15 February 1886 age 67
Harriet Smith was buried there on 31 October 1884
William Arthur Smith was buried there on 4 September 1917 his abode given as Alvaston House
On the 1901 Ordinance Survey map the hall is shown as more or less opposite Green Lane, Alvaston
Hope this is of interest
Regards
Chris
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Hi Chris
Thanks for all your help. I will go and look in the church yard.
From what you say the Hall was on the opposite side of Alvaston Street to Green Lane. I am thinking the house I previously lived in was probably built in the Hall`s grounds.
Is the map available online do you know
Many thanks
Sue
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Hi Sue
I obtained my copy of the map from the Local Studies Library in Derby
Will PM
Chris
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I believe I am related to the Dagley Smiths and have photos that could be the family residence in Alvaston, a large country house with a large crest or coat of arms on the side of said house. My father William Andrew Oscar Tomlinson told me that Dagley was a family name and hence I was given Dagley as a middle name.
My father died in 1960 and no other info was forthcoming.
Will send photos if desired.
Connection between Dagley Smith and Tomlinson would be wonderful to trace and find
Paul Dagley Tomlinson
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Hi Paul
I`d love to see your photos. I have quite a lot of information whic hI`m happy to exchange.
I`ve also done a bit of a family tree on Ancestry.co.uk I`ve not come across any Tomlinsons though but will keep looking. Do you know any details of your paternal grandparents
Sue
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Hi Sue,
Alvaston hall was built by the Allestrey, (Allestree) family. The earliest Allestrey was a serf on the lands belonging to Darley Abbey, 12th century I seem to remember. He was given his freedom and some land by the Abbot. The land was in the Mackworth area. Over the centuries, they became a very successful family and very wealthy, becoming right hand men to Charles 1st. They built Alvaston Hall in the Old Hall Road area. They were dispossessed after the civil war and those still in Derby became small or tenant farmers in the Smalley/Morley area. There is a memorial to some of them in the Cathedral. Local historian Maxwell Craven has done a huge amount of research on the family and the library holds copies. In one of the books is a photo of the hall, taken in 1937, not long before the house was demolished
I am related to them through my maternal great x 3 grandfather, who ended his days in Derby workhouse. Back to the start again. Hopes this helps.
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Hi Judy
Thanks for the information. I haven`t got much on the early history of the hall. I have been contacted by a few people with knowledge of the Hal just before it was demolished. The photo you mentioned seems to be the only one in existence.
I have managed with the help of others to draw up a family tree of some of the Hall inhabitants.
Regards
Sue
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Hi,
There is a photograph of the Hall on "Picture the past" at
http://www.picturethepast.org.uk
Click on "Search the Images" box,
enter Alvaston Hall, you get 3 results the item you want is DRBY001598, if you click on the
circle you get the picture if you then zoom image you will get a short history of the hall.
This image is from the Libraries and Museums of Derbyshire collection.
Spendlove
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Hi
Thanks for the information. Unfortunately the photo on picture the past is one I have already. I think it is the only one in existence.
The information is interesting. The actual street build on the site is Old Hall Avenue not Road. I have made contact with a couple of people that actually lived in the Hall after the Smith family left it and before it was sold to developers. I have little on the early history of the Hall though
Kind Regards
Sue