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I'm just wondering whether there is a nickname for Isaac e.g. Richard/Dick, William/Bill, Robert/Bob etc......... If there is, it might help me find my elusive Isaac ancestor - well, maybe ???
Les
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'Zac'!! ;) :-\ ::)
(But I don't know how it would be written in the records - You know like W'm and Jno and Hy for William John and Henry)
Wiggy :)
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I have come across Izzy, Ike and Ikey for Isaac.
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Hi,
Did Isaac have a second name?
I spent a long time looking for Maria Rachel, who sometimes called herself Rachel Maria.
Also gt.uncle Frank who was registered as Peter Frank...... ::)
Nanny Jan
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My 2xG Grandfather, Isaac, appeared on the 1911 census as John (he was the one who filled the form in). That wasn't even his middle name. But like Nanny Jan says many people did (and do) go by their middle names.
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Thanks for all those helpful replies.
I did think of Zac, but thought that may have been short for Zachery?
Never thought about Ike, Iky etc, so there's a possibility.
Isaac is the only name.
Basically Isaac is my gg grandfather from England. His son, my g grandfather, William was born 1850's in England, and migrated to Australia. On William's Australian Marriage Cert his father is named Isaac, but on his Death Cert his father is listed as William. William's mother was listed as Elizabeth Lee.
The surname is Swindail, and that name has many variations. Over the last 10 years I've searched for any record of the birth of William, and his parents through BDM's, Censuses, and even had a RootsChatter visit Lancashire to view Parish records without success.
I've tried every variation to find William's birth and his parents, so was hoping this new idea might work. There have been plenty of "possibles", but never anything to confirm this family.
I really don't require any one to search further, as I think I've exhausted every variation/avenue open to me, but as a nickname for Isaac was something that just came to me, I thought I would give it go.
Thanks
Les
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My gt-gt-uncle Isaac was called Ike, but only in the family.
Gillg
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http://www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=isaac
JL
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Isaac Wistler (Ike) Turner. Ike and Tina Turner :)
Paul.
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I have heard of Ike for Isaac, but understood it only became widespread after WW2 when Dwight D Eisenhewer became prominent as supreme commander Europe in the war and later as President of the USA
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I don't think so. I think I first encountered it in a ?Sherlock Holmes story (possibly). Here's an example (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikey_Solomon) of an Ikey who considerably predates WW2.
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My Isaac/Ike was born 1868 in Huntingdonshire and served in WW1. Talking of nicknames, his wife, Mary Ellen, was known as Polly!
Gillg
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http://www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=isaac
JL
Thanks for that site. I tried the variants without success.
Also thanks to the others who have "Ikes" in their family. Unfortunately for me, its back to the "brick wall".
Les
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I'm just wondering whether there is a nickname for Isaac e.g. Richard/Dick, William/Bill, Robert/Bob etc......... If there is, it might help me find my elusive Isaac ancestor - well, maybe ???
Les
I see you have the name of moore my mothers maiden name was moore she came from gateshead / felling area.
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I see you have the name of moore my mothers maiden name was moore she came from gateshead / felling area.
Sorry, Moore is a fairly common name, and my ones came from Ireland to Australia in late 1820's. But then again, if you don't ask the question, you will never know ;)
Les
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I have found my husband's Jewish rellies called Isaac recorded more than once as Isaces. As for nicknames, any nickname can be applied to anyone. My grandmother was called Peachey by her friends (don't know why) her name was Annie.
As to your chap, what was his surname and when and where are you looking for him?
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As to your chap, what was his surname and when and where are you looking for him?
Hi Jeuel, if you really want to know about my ancestor, I will give what I do know (brief as possible), starting from what I know;
Firstly, my g grandfather, William SWINDAIL arrived in New Zealand from England in 1881, with David Manassah SWINDAIL, both stone masons. David was b.1841 in Staffordshire, son of a stonemason, and I have his details including his family censuses. I do not know William and David's relationship.
William moved to Australia, and m.1884, aged 29 (b.1853) of England,giving his parents as Isaac SWINDAIL (no occupation), and Elizabeth LEES. William d.1918, aged, 63 (b.1855) of Church, Lancashire, parents William(?) SWINDAIL, stone mason, and mother unknown. William’s son was the informant on Death Certificate.
Now, its the birth of William SWINDAIL, plus his parents details (marriage and Censuses) I cannot find. As William is presumed to have supplied the details on his own marriage certificate, it would also be presumed that the parents’ names of Isaac SWINDAIL and Elizabeth LEES are correct? I cannot find a marriage for these two. The birth year of William appears to be 1855, but I cannot confirm a birth due to numerous spelling variations of SWINDAIL (SWINDELL, SWINDELLS, SWINDALL, SWINDALE etc) and whether the birth place mentioned on his Death Certificate is correct?
One would presume that if William was b.1855, he would appear with his parents in 1861 Census, and possibly 1871 Census. I cannot confirm this family in any Census. There are quite a few SWINDAIL variations, including stone masons, and Isaac’s, but nothing to confirm this family. I’ve tried with only one parent, and with William being a LEES (various spellings) just in case his parents were not married. I’ve tried William being a boarder, visitor, relative etc, but once again nothing to confirm anyone as my William. I’ve tried the same villages William"s migration partner, David SWINDAIL, lived with his family, but can only David’s family.
About 18 months(?) ago one RootsChatter was kind enough to visit the Lancashire Reigstry Office for me, but could not find any possible birth of William, nor marriage of his parents. Perhaps Lancashire as place of birth on William’s Death Certificate is incorrect?
So basically, that’s about my efforts to find William SWINDAIL and his parents, Isaac and Elizabeth. Luckily, I only gave you the “brief version” of my research. :)