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Title: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: ridder72 on Wednesday 27 October 10 02:02 BST (UK)

I descend from John Knight 1645-1699 born in Roche, Cornwall.
John married a Jane ?
His father was William and Katherine Knight.
My query is that I have read many other peoples family trees and they all say that John was the son of Richard Knight who married Agnes Coffley/Sarah Rogers.
If Richard moved to America in 1635 with Agnes and subquently had other children there why is it that John is born in Roche, Cornwall, UK.
There are too many descrepencies, notably that Richard marries 3 times in the states and all wives were still alive when he married the next. Was Richard a mormon?
Anyone out there who shares the same frustration?

Craig

Title: Re: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: Thamesite2017 on Wednesday 27 October 10 07:06 BST (UK)

Hi Craig
have you talked with the OPC for Roche
http://www.freewebs.com/arthur70/

If you def have the birth in Roche and Richard is in US, well there must be a mistake in the other trees surely

Have you been able to use other sources to confirm such as wills?
Its always the danger when you get this far back..but surely different continents is too much,
Does your John Knight die in Cornwall or does he go to America as well
Bye
althea

Title: Re: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: JKKnight on Saturday 12 August 17 05:55 BST (UK)

Hi Craig
Did you ever gat any answers to John Knight's ancestry.  I am stuck on the same questions that you have in that Richard Knight does not appear to be John's father as John was not born in America. Let me know if you got any other answers.

Jo

Title: Re: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: ridder72 on Sunday 13 August 17 01:03 BST (UK)

Hi Jo
Unfortunately, I got no further insight on John Knight. I'm desperately interested in how the name "Knight" came to be. Were they actual nobility at some point in time, or simply associated via adopting the surname under a "Knighted" baron etc??

Craig

Title: Re: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 13 August 17 08:11 BST (UK)

Probably similar to your username?

Ridder is Dutch for Knight ;D

Title: Re: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: ridder72 on Sunday 13 August 17 10:16 BST (UK)

Yeah I know that ;)
I meant the family lineage origins not the "name" perse.
Do you have anything? Where do you fit in?

Title: Re: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 13 August 17 10:48 BST (UK)

I'm just a RootsChatter member, with an interest in Genealogy.
No links to Knight (in whatever language!).

I lived in Utrecht for 16 years - hence my (limited) knowledge of Dutch.

Title: Re: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: JKKnight on Tuesday 15 August 17 01:52 BST (UK)

Hi Craig

If I have any luck in getting past this block, I will let you know.

Jo

Title: Re: John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)
Post by: KGarrad on Tuesday 15 August 17 06:24 BST (UK)

From Ancestry on name origins:

English: status name from Middle English knyghte ‘knight’, Old English cniht ‘boy’, ‘youth’, ‘serving lad’. This word was used as a personal name before the Norman Conquest, and the surname may in part reflect a survival of this. It is also possible that in a few cases it represents a survival of the Old English sense into Middle English, as an occupational name for a domestic servant. In most cases, however, it clearly comes from the more exalted sense that the word achieved in the Middle Ages. In the feudal system introduced by the Normans the word was applied at first to a tenant bound to serve his lord as a mounted soldier.