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Title: hello
Post by: wildcamper on Monday 25 October 10 15:41 BST (UK)
just wanted to say hi, new at this searching thing so any help would be really appreciated, im interested in the farmers of widnes and evans of luton, happy hunting

kindest regards

wildcamper
Title: Re: hello
Post by: JDGen on Monday 25 October 10 18:04 BST (UK)
Hello wildcamper and welcome to the site.

You've posted on the Cheshire board so we might be able to help you with your query about the Farmer surname in Widnes - can you provide some names and dates and let us know what information you are looking for?

You would be best to put a separate post on the Bedfordshire board for you Evans relatives,

Hope this helps,

Jean
Title: Re: hello
Post by: garstonite on Wednesday 27 October 10 09:45 BST (UK)
Hiya Wildcamper and welcome to Rootschat...if you go to
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html and put in the surname box Farmer...then   all events ...there are 259 results...the first Farmer with
abode Widnes ....is
marriage 11th september 1853 at St Wifrid,Farnworth,Prescot,Lancashire
John Farmer aged 19 Labourer bachelor of Widnes
Elizabeth Mercer aged 19 Spinster of Widnes
grooms father George Farmer  Labourer
brides father Robert Mercer  Labourer
witness....William Farrell /Mary Mercer
married by James Coward.....curate
Widnes WAS in Lancashire during the era you are probably researching

for the record Farnworth is now incorporated into Widnes....there are Farmer family back to 1726 in Prescot , which is quite close to Widnes....hope this helps.....allan ;)
Title: Re: hello
Post by: wildcamper on Wednesday 27 October 10 11:22 BST (UK)
thanks Allen but im nowhere near those names yet i,m still trying to find my grandfather and he only died in the late nineties, (1990s),  but thanks anyway for taking the time to reply to my post, i will keep those names in mind for future reference, once ive got my grandfathers 1st name, (proving very difficult), im hoping things will become a lot easier as ive seen a lot of farmers in widnes in the 1800s so hopefully i can start putting things together, just the 1st hurdle is very very hard to jump at the mo.

once  again thanks

regards

mike
Title: Re: hello
Post by: wildcamper on Wednesday 27 October 10 11:27 BST (UK)
ps if anyone knows of a Farmer who died in the mid/late 1990s in widnes, probably lived in the area in what is now an asda carpark, he must of been in his eightees or nineties as my only recollection is from 30 yrs ago and i remember him being elderly then, but thats only the memory of an 8 yr old, so maybe not very reliable, not much to go on i know, thats why im finding it hard work.
any help greatly appreciated

regards

mike
Title: Re: hello
Post by: JDGen on Wednesday 27 October 10 12:44 BST (UK)
Hi Mike,

The following are FARMER deaths in the Halton Registration district for the period you are looking at - Halton is the district that covers Widnes:

Harold FARMER  b 1900 died 1987
Stanley Marshall FARMER b 1904 died 1991
Edgar FARMER b 1909 died 1994
Joseph FARMER b 1912 died 1983
William Valentine FARMER b 1919 died 1981
John FARMER b 1924 died 1989

Your best route would be to find the birth certificate of your parent from the FARMER side of the family if possible - as I'm not sure how you are going to know which one of the deaths refers to your family member.  The certificate will give you both the father's first and second names and the mother's first and maiden names.

Jean
Title: Re: hello
Post by: wildcamper on Wednesday 27 October 10 13:02 BST (UK)
thanks for that jdgen, really appreciate the help, i know my fathers full name just not his birthday, i spoke to a friend yrs ago briefly who was in widnes around 86 and he said my grandfather was alive then, so that narrows it down to 4 of them,so im now going to do some math against how old my father is when he married my mother,(she was 21), so i dont think he could have been more than ten years older than her if that even, so hopefully that will narrow it down even more.

once again thanks

regards

mike
Title: Re: hello
Post by: englandphil on Wednesday 27 October 10 14:05 BST (UK)
Mike, your fathers birth record should contain his mothers maiden name.  You can then do a search of a farmer marrying a girl with your mothers maiden name in prescot regsitration district 10 years prior to your fathers birth.

Do you know roughly when your father was born ?
Title: Re: hello
Post by: wildcamper on Wednesday 27 October 10 14:10 BST (UK)
roughly 1940-51 his name was (*) if that helps.

regards

mike

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Title: Re: hello
Post by: englandphil on Wednesday 27 October 10 15:06 BST (UK)
roughly 1940-51 his name was ronald william farmer if that helps.

regards

mike


He doesnt appear to have been born in Widnes, as I cant find a birth record, but have found a marriage record to a (*) in 1972.  Do you know of any brothers or sisters that your father had, as that will help identify a corrrect birth record

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Title: Re: hello
Post by: wildcamper on Wednesday 27 October 10 15:10 BST (UK)
yes thats my mother, i think he had a brother possibly called (*)

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Title: Re: hello
Post by: englandphil on Wednesday 27 October 10 15:33 BST (UK)
THere is a birth record for (*) which has been incorectly transcribed.


Registration district: Prescot
Registration county: Lancashire

If this is the corect brother, then there is a 2nd possible brother listed

(*) - Prescot, Lancashire

but nothing on a (*).  It is possible that his records where lost inthe blitz if he was born in 1940.

If this is the correct Maiden name, then here is your grand parents marriage
Name: Harry Farmer
Spouse Florrie Eden
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1932
Registration district: Prescot
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire

and based upon the date, a sister of your father

(*) - Prescot, Lancashire

This would make Harry / Harold your grandfather (heres abother possability)

Name:  Harry Farmer
Birth:  9 May 1912
Death:  Jun 2003 - Halton, Cheshire, England

and possibly his Wife Florrie

Name:  Florrie Farmer
Birth:  12 Apr 1913
Death:  Nov 1998 - Halton, Cheshire, England

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Title: Re: hello
Post by: wildcamper on Wednesday 27 October 10 15:37 BST (UK)
thanks for that england phil, the more names i can explore the better chance i have of hitting on the right one, really appreciate your time.

thanks

regards

mike
Title: Re: hello
Post by: englandphil on Wednesday 27 October 10 15:46 BST (UK)
thanks for that england phil, the more names i can explore the better chance i have of hitting on the right one, really appreciate your time.

thanks

regards

mike

Try contacting the cemetery, and ask if they are buried there.  they should be able to tell you who owns the grave, and where they lived at the time

P

http://www.remembranceonline.co.uk/mtree/burial-and-cremation/crematoria/widnes-crematorium
Title: Re: hello
Post by: wildcamper on Wednesday 27 October 10 15:48 BST (UK)
will do

thanks again

regards

mike
Title: Re: hello
Post by: stretchie on Saturday 24 September 11 21:10 BST (UK)
Hi wildcamper,

I too am related to the Widnes Farmers, I have been researching for years.

Henry Farmer & Florrie Eden are buried in Widnes Cem.  Just as you go in the main entrance on the right.

Henry was my 1st cousin x2 removed.

Please get in touch.

Wendy