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Title: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool Completed
Post by: KiwiHugh on Monday 25 October 10 04:39 BST (UK)
I do realise that even in 1841 the place was big (and bigger in 1851) and Spencer was a common name but here goes anyway. If only they had had a wider range of first names.
Margaret Spencer.  Born around 1837.
Please dont laugh!
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: Evie on Monday 25 October 10 09:09 BST (UK)
Hi

Do you know who Margaret married?

Evie
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: garstonite on Monday 25 October 10 10:14 BST (UK)
One possible on www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
this is from 1835 to 1839
Margaret Spencer born 19th July 1837 / babtised 6th August 1837 at
St Mary,Walton on the Hill, Liverpool,Lancashire
abode Walton
daughter of Thomas Spencer and Margaret
occupation Labourer
babtised by T Moss  -  Vicar
..as I say ...a possibility....not definite....allan ;)
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: KiwiHugh on Monday 25 October 10 11:26 BST (UK)
yep  William Hampson Sept quarter 1855 at Liverpool Volume 8b Page 50 Register Office or Registrar attended BUT gro.gov.uk will NOT let me order it online for some reason. Grr Frustrating.
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: posteria on Tuesday 26 October 10 23:37 BST (UK)
This might be a stroke of luck (or a huge coincidence) ....

On the 1861 census, I think, William Hampson is recorded twice. He appears with his wife in Preston  here (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,491461.msg3492702.html#msg3492702) and he also seems to appear at Liverpool RG9/2677 Folio 17 Page 27 as the Brother in Law of James Cockton Daulby and his wife Elizabeth (nee Spencer), who married in the second quarter of 1855 at St Philip, Liverpool.

If it is the same man (and it certainly seems so to me) then it looks like his future wife, Margaret Spencer and his future sister in law, Elizabeth Spencer might be found in 1851 at Liverpool HO107/2183 Folio 102 Page 70 and in 1841 at Liverpool HO107/561/20 Folio 12 Page 16 ... if someone else would like to check, please.

posteria
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: Evie on Wednesday 27 October 10 07:43 BST (UK)
Wow posteria, well done. What a find, I agree it looks like you have found the correct Margaret Spencer as a result of William being on the census twice. Very considerate of him.

It didn't help having him transcribed as Thompson on FindMyPast :P

I looked at those parents for Margaret the other day for the simple reason they had named their child Elizabeth and William's mother was Margaret. However, I had no other proof, so left it alone rather than confuse matters.

Evie
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: Evie on Wednesday 27 October 10 07:53 BST (UK)
Christening of Margaret on IGI family search

1 FEB 1837   Saint Peter, Liverpool

Evie
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: KiwiHugh on Wednesday 27 October 10 08:40 BST (UK)
I sit here in total awe of you folks!!
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: posteria on Wednesday 27 October 10 13:35 BST (UK)
Thank you Evie for looking.

Here are the two census entries. Although this seems very likely to be the correct family it would still be advisable to check further from the marriage details of Margaret or Elizabeth.

1841

Liverpool HO107/561/20 Folio 12 Page 16

John Spencer 33 Labourer
Elizabeth do 33
Mary do 11
Elizabeth do 6
Margaret do 4
Ann do 2mo

Pembroke Street, Liverpool

All born in Lancashire

1851

Liverpool HO107/2183 Folio 102 Page 70

John Spencer Head M 43 Coal Dealer Lancashire Halsal
Elizth do Wife M 43 Lancashire Bickerstaffe
Elizth do Daur 16 Lancashire Liverpool
Margt do Daur 14 Lancashire Liverpool
Ann do Daur 9 Lancashire Liverpool
John do Son 7 Lancashire Liverpool
Edwd do Son 2 Lancashire Liverpool

21 Pembroke Street, Liverpool

posteria
Title: Re: Margaret Spencer in Liverpool
Post by: posteria on Wednesday 27 October 10 19:29 BST (UK)
Here is the other entry for William Hampson ....

1861

Liverpool RG9/2677 Folio 17 Page 27

James Cockton Daulby Head M 28 Scripture Reader & Church Clerk Lancashire L.pool
Elizabeth do Wife M 26 Lancashire L.pool
John Frederick do Son 5 Lancashire L.pool
Lydia Elizth do Daur 4 Lancashire L.pool
Harriet Anne do Daur 2 Lancashire L.pool
James Cockton do 6mo Lancashire L.pool
William Hampson Bro in Law M 29 Cooper Lancashire Hoole
Johanna Cockton Aunt W 76 Staffordshire ?

6 Rathbone Place, Liverpool

posteria