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17 Oct 1836 Richard Standing aka Stanley was tried at the Leicester/Bor(ugh) Quarter Sessions. He was found guilty and transported 8 Oct 1837 'Recovery'. His wife Sarah and 2 children were in Leicester at the same time.
Is anyone able to find out any details regards Richard's court case? Plus, what happened to his wife and family? Richard said to be native of Devon (Ruckleford??- writing hard to read, so hope other material reveals the place he was born more clearly) his occupation was woolcomber. I don't know where he married/had his children/ or lived, at the time of his offence. Any advice or help much appreciated.
:)thanks MC
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According to the entry - he was sentenced to 7yrs transportation for receiving stolen goods
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Richard was 31 d you now Sarahs age and or childrens names and ages ?
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Oh sorry CaroleW & Toni
After putting up my post, I realised how late it was and trotted off to bed. Firstly, convict papers says he was 33 when he arrived (in 1837) and I have him being 40 in 1848 so his DOB could be anything from 1803 - 1808 & yes he was sentenced to 7yrs. I was interested in finding other material that might help clarify his place of his birth, as the name of the place is very hard to discern.
Don't know anything more about Sarah and children but located this after posting last night. A Richard Stanning or Flanning married a Sarah Whithall at St Mary's Leicester, Leicester Eng., in 1824 so I am following that one up, because if it is him, that could mean that he moved to Leicester prior to his marriage.
He was accused of being in possession of stolen woollen rollings (?) so that suggests he was working as woolsorter or similar, at time of conviction, as that was his occupation.
Just looking for extra confirmation
Thanks MC
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Greeting’s ..Folks.
Just to confirm names & dates re :~ Richard’s Marriage :~
1824.
St: Mary’s Parish Church. Leicester.
Richard STANNING ~ Sarah Whithall.
11th. October.
By Banns.
MIKE. …
UPDATE.
PLUS BAPTISM :~
St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.
1830.
Entry No’. 1808. 6th. August.
Mary Ann. Daughter of Richard & Sarah Stanning.
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can you scan and post the p.o.b for Richard ? we might be able to make it out
i looked on the British Newspapers last night but couldnt see anything
i only found what Carole found
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Greeting’s Again. …..
This could well be your Sarah. ......
1851 Census return HO107 / 2088 / 471 / Page. 17.
St: Margaret’s Parish with Bishops Fees.
Brunswick Street.
No’. 1 Curzon Place.
Sarah Stanning Head Wid. Aged.48
Parish Relief Shirt Seamer Nbl Newcastle Upon Tyne.
Samuel Stanning Son Um Aged.20 Fwk Lei Leicester.
John Stanning Son Um Aged.17 Fwk Lei Leicester.
MIKE. ….
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Samuel’s Burial details :~
Welford Road cemetery. Leicester.
Plot No’. C.M. 357.
M 357 C Cave Fanny 1852 Apr 6 1 Blackfriars Street Saint Nicholas 905
M 357 C Ogden Charles Leonard 1880 Jul 30 15wks
Upper Conduit Street Saint George 21610
M 357 C Stanning Samuel 1889 Aug 10 Aged.55
Lonsdale Street Saint George 30777
M 357 C Dyer James Walter 1898 Mar 15 3
Charter Street Leicester 41104
M 357 C Bentley John Henry 1917 Jun 16 29
67 Stoughton Street Leicester 56924
No other Stanning’s of Sarah’s Family Group found. …..Sorry.
Sarah might have remarried ?
MIKE. ….
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Samuel’s Marriage. :~
St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.
Entry No.257, April .22nd, 1862, after Banns
Samuel Withworth Staning, 28, Bachelor. Frame Work Knitter, of Russell Street,
Son. of RICHARD STANING, ……..WOOL SORTER .
Ann Wallis, 46, Widow. of Russell Street,
Daughter. of Thomas Vernon, …….Needle Maker
Wits: Charles Anderson, Sophia Anderson.
MIKE. ……..
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Hello Toni, Hello Mike from Leicester
I apologise again but just too tired to stay the distance lately.
You have been doing great work.
First up though. Toni asked if I could send the D.O.B. so you could see it for yourself.
The place where he said he was born only shows up on this image below - I have not got a paper copy myself but viewed it on here also. You will see it on the right side of the page above Devon (I could only find a Reckleford, Yeovil Somerset, once called Rackleford - nothing in Devon)
http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON18-1-22,248,132,S,80
To Mike from Leicester. I think you clinched it. Finding Sarah Stanning claiming to be a widow on Parish Relief with two sons Samuel & John still living at home in 1851 was good. But better still, finding Samuel getting married and declaring he was the son of a Wool Sorter called Richard Stanning lifted the odds even higher. I am prepared to say I believe this is the family Richard left behind.
The baby born 1830, Mary Ann may not have survived.
Not sure what NBL or FWK stand for in 1851 Census - is probably where they were born? but not sure what they are abbreviations for.
Samuels marriage to a widow of 46 suggests his line died out without any offspring..lets hope John did better.
Let me know if you have any ideas about Richards place of birth.
Thanks again MC
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fwk is framework knitter a common occupation in leicester at that time
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Thank for that Toni
I didn't realise it meant their occupation. It seems the whole family were involved in the Woollen industry.
I found 'Stanning families around 'Buckfastleigh', Devon England. Lots of them there from the 1600's through to 1800's. Even two Richards. One bap1802 one bap1811 - with the latter being mentioned in the 1881 Census.
It was also known for it's wool industry.
Our Richard had a problem with his speech. Maybe he said 'Buckfast'? As I said I need another document giving his P.O.B. to be sure.
MC
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Greeting’s Again. ….MC.
Abbreviations.. :~
FWK. = Frame Work Knitter.
NBL = Northumberland.
Newcastle Upon Tyne = Place of Birth
Sorry. …… NO Mary Ann Stanning Burial found 1813 ~ 1990.
MIKE. ……
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Greetings to you as well Mike...
Thank you for filling me in regards the abbreviations. That is a great help. I think you might have been right suggesting Sarah re-married. After even 7ys without word from their spouse, they could I believe, do just that.
Her husband certainly did...to my GGGrandmother! By then he was free. I wonder if Sarah & sons heard about this marriage? They would have known that Richard would have been free after 7ys. (Albeit, if he had no money to buy his way back, his sentence became a lifetime, anyway.)
At least I have some meat to put on his bones. He isn't just a name and number now.
Sarah & her son John certainly did a disappearing trick. Who knows where they went? I will keep looking for a while at least. bye for now MC
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Greeting’s Again. …MC.
Another clincher for you………
BAPTISM ;~
1830.
St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.
Entry No’. 1808.
Dated. 6th August.
Mary Ann. Daughter of Richard & Sarah Stanning.
Abode. …Melbourne Street.
Father’s Occupation. …WOOL COMBER..
Signed. ….A. Savage. …Curate.
MIKE. ……
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And greetings to you too Mike...Another clincher indeed!
How good is that? Occupation, plus place of abode.
Little Mary Ann was a Leo! But sadly she appears not to have survived.
Somewhere between 1830 & 1837 this little girl, 'Mary Ann Stanning' must have died, as from 1837 Richard claimed that he only had two children.
I have found a whole family (11) of Stannings in Buckfastleigh, Devon, where the parents are Samuel and Mary (IGI) including two bubs called Richard Stanning. One born 1776, and one 1802.
That our Richard named his first son Samuel and first daughter Mary, might suggest that these people in Devon were related. However, I can't find any place in Devon named Ruckleford or Buckleford, where he said was his 'native place' ...but it could have been the name of a messuage/farm perhaps?
Your blood is worth bottling Mike. You have filled in a lot of blanks. Thanks for all the good work. Cheers for now MC