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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: Bobshop on Friday 22 October 10 20:01 BST (UK)
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I am trying to locate any possible family members of Wally Hancock, who was originally from liverpool, and emigrated to australia possibly in the 1940/1950s. Wally was the brother of my late father bertram hancock, who died in 1985, both brothers were in the Royal Navy together, wally was a welterweight boxer in the navy, and later became a champion boxer in Australia. :)
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Many news items for a fighter Wally HANCOCK but before 1940. Perhaps it was a different man.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?searchTerm=wally+hancock
Could we have Wally's parents' names please.
Cando
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Marriage
4966/1926
HANCOCK Walter
TOWNER Amy M
District Sydney
Australian Electoral Roll
1933 NSW
HANCOCK Amy Mildred 20 New Illawarra Road, Kingsgrove Home duties
HANCOCK Walter 20 New Illawarra Road, Kingsgrove Occupationt Pugulist
1936
HANCOCK Amy Mildred 108 Bellevue Road, Hurstville Home duties
1943
HANCOCK Amy Mildred 5 Juliett Street, Newtown Home duties
HANCOCK Walter 12 Patrick Street, Hurstville RAN
also in 1943 at the address below.
1949
HANCOCK Amy Mildred 5 Juliett Street, Newtown Home duties
HANCOCK Valerie Maria 5 Juliett Street, Newtown Home duties
HANCOCK Walter 5 Juliett Street, Newtown Assistant
HANCOCK Walter George 5 Juliett Street, Newtown Storeman
Death
13634/1969
HANCOCK Amy Mildred
Father Cossless Mother Alice
District Newtown
You may like to search here for a possible death for Walter. There is one in 1955 but not having his parents' names makes it difficult to identify him on the indexes
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/cgi-bin/Index/IndexingOrder.cgi/search?event=births
Marriage for the other couple at the 1949 address.
21500/1947
HANCOCK Walter George
CASSELLS Valerie Maria
District Sydney
Walter George's WW2 Service Summary
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/script/veteran.asp?ServiceID=A&VeteranID=294546
Hope it is your Walter ;D
Cando
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Well found Cando!!
Just loved the occupation pugulist ;D
Jenn
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Hi Bob,
What was the year of WALTER's birth please?
His parents' names may be of help too ;D
Sue
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There are more illustrated news snippets here
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0a5s/
Link to photo
http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-vn3789580
Wally Hancock, Ex-Welterweight Champion of Australia, Born Liverpool, England, July 23rd, 1906, Weight 10st. 2lbs.. Height 5ft. 8ins, Reach 69ins. Contests 124 ; Won 58, K.O. 31, Lost 25, K.O. by 3, Draw 7"-
This could be Walter emigrating to Aus.
HANCOCK Walter b. 1906, shoemaker, embarked on the ESPERANCE from London on 30 Dec 1924 ticketed to Melbourne. His last address in the UK - 10, Spokenland Road, Liverpool. Country of intended permanent residence, Australia.
Cando
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http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx
The National Archives of Australia has a Service Record for Walter Hancock born in 1906 in Liverpool, he first joined the navy in 1925 and his nok is his wife Amy Hancock.
This would be the same man as detailed by Cando
Jenn
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Find my Past
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action?redef=0
has details for a Walter Hancock born 1906 going from England to Melbourne Australia in 1924
Jenn
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Did Bertram emigrate to Australia as well as it is detailed that they served in the RN....however Wally was in the RAN and a stoker :-\ Perhaps I have misunderstood...nothing new ;D
Cando
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This death notice on
http://www.ryersonindex.org/
HANCOCK Valerie Maree
Death notice 14 June 1997 70 years at Bossley Park, late of Lidcombe
Published in the Daily Telegraph [Sydney] 16 Jun 1997
Look ups are available on the site....left menu on homepage.
Hopefully there may be a name of two that may be helpful.
Cando
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Thank you everyone who replied to my post concerning Wally Hancock, I never expected so much information so quickly. From what little I know about Wally,Cando has hit the nail on the head and Jen seems to be talking about the same person. Now I would be grateful of any advice as to find out if Wally and Amy had any children, this is the first time I have visited a site like roots, so am very much a novice as what to do next. I have a photo of Wally in his boxing gear,which was taken from the "ring" november 2nd 1932 "Heros of Sport" and it is the same person in the photo Cando sent me. Again thank you so much for your time and information, and any other help will be gratefully accepted. :D
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Bobshop,
Are you able to tell us the name of Wally's parents please as can help us to find his death.
You can apply for his wife Amy's death certificate from the B.D.M department of NSW, you can apply on line and they will send it to you, depending on their workload it could take around three weeks or longer.
costs at the moment of $29.00
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/searchHistoricalRecords.htm
Or you can use a transcription agent for around $19.00
They can send you the copy directly to you by email so the turnround is usually a few days.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm#TranscriptionAgent
there are there to choose from, I use Laurie Turtle and have had no problems but I know a lot of folk also use the others with the same result.
The difference between the two sources is the government certificate is a certified true copy and the transcription agents are not, but they have the same information.
The death certificate will list any children she may have had, there does appear to be at a least one child by the electoral rolls, but that is only supposition.
The death certificate will reveal where she is buried and we may be able then to see who may be buried with her, ie Wally.
As the on line indexs for death only go to 1979 it is possible he died after that.
Jenn
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Death notice
Daily Telegraph [Sydney] 16 Jun 1997
HANCOCK Valerie Maree. June 14, 1997 at Bossley Park, late of Lidcombe. Dearly loved mother, mother-in-law of Cheryl and Noel, Susan and Robert, loved granny of John, Matthew and Nicole. Aged 70 years.
Funeral, June 17 1997, was at Pine Grove Memorial Park, Eastern Creek with burial there also.
Judith
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Hi Folks
This is all very interesting as my mother in law just asked me to look up what happen to her Uncle Walter Hancock who emigrated to Australia and became a welter weight boxing champ in the 1930. So I have the following to add, that Walter was the son of Ernest Edward Hancock and Edith (nee Mather), they can be found on the 1911 UK census at 23 Rockwood St, Keningston Liverpool and he had the following siblings at the time - Ernest Edward (b~1908) and John (b~1910). Later there was a sister Ethel, still working out the details - can anyone confirm this is Walter's family? I have not found brother Bertram yet to help with the connection and it looks like there was another Walter born in 1906 in Liverpool.
Thanks
Becky
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Hi my name is Paul hancock & l believe Walter hancock is my great uncle my father was named after Walter hancock & my grandfathers name was Lesley the brother of Walter all from Liverpool please can you get in touch with further information
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Welcome to Rootschat, Pago12 and rdtaylor3
You need 3 posts before you can use the private Message facility on Rootschat, so each of you needs 2 more posts.
It does seem that there are two Walter HANCOCKs.
There is this one, whose 1911 details are already given by rdtaylor (Becky)
FreeReg has a birth
Walter HANCOCK, registered W. Derby (Lancashire), Vol 8b, p581
Baptism, Christ Church Kensington, Liverpool
July 30, 1905
Walter HANCOCK, born 18 June 1905
Parents: Ernest Edward and Edith HANCOCK, of 44 Ruthin St; his occ: carter
This Walter had siblings Ernest, John, Margaret, Elsie and Edna.
I do not think he is connected with Walter the boxer.
Judith
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Hi thanks for coming back to me this is all new to me not knowing that you have to have 3 posts!!!!.I'm actually doing my family ancestry tree & as far as l can see & what my father is telling me & myself having actually meet wally the boxer myself when l was about 9 or 10 years of age (I'm now 55 years old) at his brothers house my fathers uncle ernie of bootle in Liverpool & on his return to Australia unfortunately passed away on the ship aged around his 70s so l'm told & l do know from one of my cousins David hancock that we do have relations in Australia which l'll have to speak to him on this matter the other reason why I'm doing this is my father had another uncle & his name was Edward Hancock who is believed to have been killed in action at monte casino ? & had made a promised to his father Lesley hancock to see his grave my father is 77 years of age can you please tell me what your connection is to walloping wally hancock the boxer
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Hi just looking at the birthdate of Walter hancock it's 23/7/1906
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Hi Pago12
Now you have the three posts. I have no connection to this family personally - I'm just a person who enjoys genealogy so try to add what I can to the searches of others.
Judith
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hi every thing you are saying is correct except you have never met walter because uncle ernie was my late father my name is barry i think walter had 2 sons and 1 daughter i also have two letters written to my late father in the late 60s which i will be only to happy to send you copies
is lesley your father if so he has two surviving brothers victor and harold (boy) who served in sas and you must be a cousin you have 2 sisters marie and lynette if you want any more info or copies of letters please e mail at (*)
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Barry - you will need to make 3 posts and then you can use the PM system, as your email address is likely to be removed from your post. However, I'll PM it to the two other people on the thread and they should get an email notifying them of a reply on thread.
Judith