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My grandfather owned an art gallery in Piccadilly. I have just downloaded one of his catalogues and it states "Published by C E Clifford and Co; St James Gallery of Art."
Is there any way I can find out more about the company - who was "and co" for instance!!
The catalogue was published in 1892 when Charles Edward Clifford would have been 70, so I imagine more of a "sleeping" partner. I have a letter written by him in 1885 in which the letter-heading of the gallery is just "C E Clifford" so I suppose the company was set up between the two dates.
Many thanks for any advice
Tilly
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Per the Gazette there was a limited company of that name which was wound up in 1924.
My 1902 directory has CE Clifford & Co printsellers at 21 Haymarket
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Hello Shaun
Thank you very much for the information - I have found the articles in the Gazette with the date you gave me - that's interesting as Charles died in 1903 and his son, Herbert, who gives his profession as "print seller" on his marriage cert in 1886, died in 1900. Charles' other son, Edward, died in 1910.................. so I wonder who kept the business going until 1924! Is there any way of finding out?
Tilly
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I have just found the following on the National Portrait Gallery site :
C.E. Clifford 1849-1886, artists' colourman 1849-1876, photographic materials manufacturer 1857-1865, picture restorer from 1877; C.E. Clifford & Co from 1887, printsellers; C.E. Clifford & Co Ltd from 1912, fine art publishers, printsellers, framemakers, picture restorers. At 30 Piccadilly, London WC 1848-1887, 12 Piccadilly 1888-1891, 200 Piccadilly 1892-1894, 21 Haymarket 1895-1911, 12 Bury St, St James's from 1912, subsequently moving elsewhere
I don't know where "elswhere" can be! I'm beginning to think he might have sold the company to someone else as I sure my grandfather didn't take it over - and his estate was used to provide for his dead son's wife and seven children.......
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My grandfather owned an art gallery in Piccadilly. I have just downloaded one of his catalogues and it states "Published by C E Clifford and Co; St James Gallery of Art."
Is there any way I can find out more about the company - who was "and co" for instance!!
The catalogue was published in 1892 when Charles Edward Clifford would have been 70, so I imagine more of a "sleeping" partner. I have a letter written by him in 1885 in which the letter-heading of the gallery is just "C E Clifford" so I suppose the company was set up between the two dates.
Many thanks for any advice
I have a old print displayed in my gallery, it's london publish june 2nd 1890 by a L.E. Clifford of 12 piccadilly W. this posting will help me to find out who was the artist. Thanks
Tilly
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Good morning!
That's interesting! What is the name of the print?
tilly
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The Wanderer by Herbert Dicksee, it seem that the post I read was the family of the art dealers that published the work. I have been researching the piece for a while but did'nt find anything until I changed the le clifford to ce clifford and the world of info opened up!
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Dear Tilly & All
I hope you have managed to find out more information about your grandfather.
I have what appears to be a print which states "London, Published April 2nd, 1888, by C.E.Clifford and Co 12 Piccadilly" and has been stamped by H Wainright and son Ltd of 712 High Road, Tally Ho Corner, North Finchley established 1902. I think it looks like a print but unsure. Any advice or information would be greatfully received.
Best regards,
Starmay1 :)
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Hello Starmay,
I was very interested to read your post.... the C E Clifford is "my" one, but I think that the company no longer belonged to him in 1888.
I very recently came accross an ad for an auction which was in the Morning Post on the 12th March 1887 (photo attached - at least I would attach one, but I don't seem to be able to do so?? ???). Some time between 1881 and 1886, he and his family moved to Longfield in Kent and in the 1891 census he is still in Longfield with his daughter Ada and "Living on own means" - I suppose that this is the money made from selling his business.
I recently had a very lucky find on E Bay - one of the paintboxes made by his company (including some original Winsor and Newton paints!)!!
There is quite a lot about C E Clifford if you Google!
Best regards
Tilly
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Tilly
I have just bought a drawing and CE Clifford's label is on the back. It's a drawing of Ruen in France.
I have tried to attached a picture of the label but can't seem to find away.
The address is:
The St. Jame's Gallery of Art
30, Piccadilly, London W.
(Second Door from St. Jame's Hall)
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Hi OliverTwist
That is interesting - since my original post, I have managed to find quite a lot of information about C E Clifford and have also bought two oil paintings with his label on the back. He seems to have had dabbled in various fields.... picture selling and hiring, framing, photography and supplies, selling equipment to artists etc etc!
Tilly
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Hello there, sorry to bother you, I am from Canada, and I brought at an auction a painting of 2 Japanize ladies sweeping a floor, and on the back of the painting it shows the name of C E Clifford. The artist name is hard to read, and was hoping that you might have a lead for me to follow up upon.
Description:
INDISTINCTLY SIGNED "Untitled - Two Japanese Women Sweeping" 1891 - Oil on panel. Signed illegibly and dated 1891 lower right. Unframed. 14 x 10 inches. Very good condition, some handling marks noted. Gallery label verso, Clifford's Gallery of Art (Haymarket, London).
Thank you for your time.
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Good morning,
Unfortunately I cannot be of any help. Any artistic genes I might have inherited from my ancestor are very feeble :-\
I can only suggest that you take a picture of the signature and post it on RootsChat.... you never know, someone might recognise it.
Good luckf!
Tilly xx