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Title: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Tuesday 19 October 10 17:52 BST (UK)
hope i am in the right county i am after any census details for the gywnn family 1901 1911 father thomas roland gywnn wife henrietta ridley children frederick rhoda george eliza john and william in gateshead
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: sillgen on Tuesday 19 October 10 17:57 BST (UK)
I'm sorry but 1911 census requests are not allowed - please see here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html

The index is free to search and there are lots of suggestions on this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355239.0.html


Have you any idea of birthdates for the children to help find them in 1901?
Andrea
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 19 October 10 18:14 BST (UK)
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Have you any idea of birthdates for the children to help find them in 1901?

Looks like they didn't marry until 1902: Tom Rowland Gwynn and Henrietta Ridley show up on the same page, Gateshead 10a, 1323, 2nd quarter 1902.

Jennifer
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Mort29 on Tuesday 19 October 10 18:20 BST (UK)
Picking Rhoda - she wasnt born until 1915.

Frederick - 1913.
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Tuesday 19 October 10 18:26 BST (UK)
yes rhoda 1915 george 1911 frederick 1913 eliza jane1904 john 1907 william 1909
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Mort29 on Tuesday 19 October 10 18:29 BST (UK)
Should help find T R Gwynn pre-1911 and pre-marriage in the 1901 census

Births Sep 1883   
Gwynn    Thomas Roland        Birmingham    6d   195


Hmmmm, you might need that Marriage or Birth Cert. Just spent 10 mins on a wild goose chase with a Thomas Gwynn in Sutton Coldfield (Aston - Birmingham-ish), so that lad is eliminated.
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Mort29 on Tuesday 19 October 10 18:44 BST (UK)
Here he is, seems to prefer Tom (  ;) )

1891 census of GATESHEAD  RG12; Piece: 4177; Folio 80; Page 57 of 10, Dorothy Street
 
Herbert Gwynn 30 Head of Household born Birmingham: an Iron Turner (I think)
Mary J Gwynn 28 Wife born Birmingham
Tom R Gwynn 7 son born BIRMINGHAM
Mary A Gwynn 5 dau born Gateshead
Rhoda Gwynn 2 dau ditto
 
 

1901 RG13; Piece: 4750; Folio: 155; Page: 52 Gateshead, 88 Milling Street

PoBs are somewhat different!

Herbert Guynn 40 Head of Household born Staffs, Bilston: Iron Turner
Mary J Guynn 38 Wife Ditto
Tom R Guynn 17 son born Warks, Warwick: Boat Manufacturers Labourer
Mary A Guynn 15 dau Gateshead
Rhoda Guynn 12 ditto
John Guynn 9 son ditto
William Guynn 4 ditto
Mary Ellen Guynn 1 dau ditto


Probable Marriage

Marriages Dec 1882   

DANIELS    Drusila         Birmingham    6d   109    
Gwynn    William Herbert         Birmingham    6d   109   
Harwood    George Alfred         Birmingham    6d   109    
Magee    Mary Jane         Birmingham    6d   109   
 
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 19 October 10 18:52 BST (UK)
Hi on the 1901 he is shown as GUYNN

Census Ref RG13/4750/155/52

Keyboard86
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: keyboard86 on Tuesday 19 October 10 18:53 BST (UK)
SNAP!!

Keyboard86
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Tuesday 19 October 10 20:18 BST (UK)
you have found so much   cannot thank you enough   cheers
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Tuesday 19 October 10 22:19 BST (UK)
found herbert gwynn marriage to mary j magee 1882 but it says william herbert gwynn think its right still cannot find his birth ican find a william herbert gwynn in 1866 but that only makes him 16 when he married he is 30 on the 1891 census so his birth should be around 1860 1861 is it herbert william or william herbert
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Mort29 on Wednesday 20 October 10 12:50 BST (UK)
recommend you get the Marriage Papers and see who he stated his Father was.

If its Rowland, then the family in 1871 Hanley, Staffs might be relevant.

RG10; Piece: 2865; Folio: 64; Page: 10
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Wednesday 20 October 10 19:10 BST (UK)
can anyone help i am after finding william herbert gywnn born abt 1860 birmingham it could be herbert william gwynn  his wife is mary j gwynn fo rmerly magee married 1882 there son tom r gwynn also born warks warwick born abt 1883 william i think born bilston i have the family in 1901 1891 living in gateshead i realy would like to find out about william herbert gywnn
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Mort29 on Wednesday 20 October 10 19:13 BST (UK)


Moderator comment - topic merged from Staffs board to avoid duplication
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Radcliff on Thursday 21 October 10 15:12 BST (UK)
This is possibly your man in 1881,

William Gwynn aged 21 a groom,born Catsill Worc

living 89 /90 Ashted Row ,Aston Birmingham,

RG11/3D27
 this may be his birth December 1859 Bromsgrove .

or William Henry September 1863 Kings Norton,

I think you need the birth certificate or marriage for this one ,just to be 100% sure
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Thursday 21 October 10 19:31 BST (UK)
would it be possible to find william gwynn 1859 ashted row aston birmingham on the 1861 census as i think this is the one talking to family please
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: keyboard86 on Thursday 21 October 10 20:39 BST (UK)
Hi I think a possible for your William, as off work no PC can someone look at RG09/2114/97/16, A William A Gwyn
Keyboard86
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: keyboard86 on Thursday 21 October 10 21:02 BST (UK)
Hi again the above looks to be your Worcester man ie not a W H Gwynn, I hope I am wrong and the case gets solved for you, in saying that I still believe that the purchase of the marriage cert as mentioned twice, is the only safe route for you to progress.
Keyboard86
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Thursday 21 October 10 21:37 BST (UK)
ok thanks
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Mort29 on Friday 22 October 10 11:09 BST (UK)
did you see this earlier post before the thread got confusinly merged ?

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recommend you get the Marriage Papers and see who he stated his Father was.

If its Rowland, then the family in 1871 Hanley, Staffs might be relevant.

RG10; Piece: 2865; Folio: 64; Page: 10 
 
   
 
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Friday 22 October 10 16:30 BST (UK)
ok got ya i will try and get it
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Kerrydave on Wednesday 30 October 13 04:20 GMT (UK)
hi - just wondering if this is the same family as Henrietta Gwynn who married samuel Shute on Fernhill in Isle of Wight. Henrietta born 1754 from what I can see.  cheers Kerry. NZ
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: thomas1879 on Wednesday 30 October 13 07:34 GMT (UK)
no sorry no connection cheers
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Paparico on Thursday 21 May 15 22:55 BST (UK)
You might search Llantrisant, Glamorganshire, as some of the Gwynns (Guyn/Gwin/etc.) worked in the tin mine there,  and those with a good work history and skills transferred to the tin mines in Durham during the 1850s/60s ....
Title: Re: gwynn family
Post by: Paparico on Friday 22 May 15 04:10 BST (UK)
Perhaps this will help.  The 1891 Census lists Anne Richards, Head, Widow, age 39, born St. Dogmaels, Pembrokeshire, her children, then Joseph Williams, 78, Retired Mariner, followed by Elizabeth GWYNNE, sister, age 46, also born at St. Dogmaels.

The 1851 Census for St. Dogmaels is incorrectly attributed to Cardiganshire, instead of Pembrokeshire, but you will find living at 133 Mill Street, St. Dogmaels,  Joseph Williams, 38, Mariner, Mary, 36, wife, Children John 14, Benjamin 11, Mary Ann 9, George 5, and Margaret 2.

Please note that living at 132 Mill Street is Mary Williams, widow, occupation:  Miller, so she is quite possibly Joseph's mother.

Welsh for St. Dogmaels is "Llandudoch". 
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