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Title: o neill family
Post by: mick123 on Tuesday 12 October 10 15:56 BST (UK)
hello, is there anybody out there who can help me with my family search . my great grand father James O'Neill married Bridget Devlin on the 2/10/1873 Pomeroy, Cookstown, County Tyrone.
On the 15/11/1874 their first child Elizabeth was born in Thornaby 2 Long Row followed by Bridget 15/2/1876, followed by Sarah 18/11/1877, Matilda 27/5/1880, Mary 26/5/1884?, James 1885, twins Catherine / Charles Thomas 1886, John Arthur 1888, Joseph 1892
you can see that james and bridget had a large family

from records i found the family living at lower lackenby in 1881 in 1891 there were living at 97 bessmer st grangetown in 1901 97 bessemer st grangetown in 1911 moved to 116 bessmer st
 
my great grand father died 16/3/1904 at eston hospital cause of death injuries received at lackenby iron works
age 50 ???.bridget my great nana died 16/8/1934 age 80i believe she was living with her youngest son joseph
at 14 westward st middlesbrough
does anybody out there have any more information about my great grandfather james his fathers name is charles
and a brother arthur . arthur was aged 38 on the 1891 census visting family bessemer st grangetown
Title: Re: james and bridget o neill
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 12 October 10 17:22 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat I've editied the first section of your post by capitalising the names to make it easier to read and removed excess empty lines at the bottom.
Are Thornaby and Lackenby somewhere in England?
Do you have the marriage certificate of James and Bridget?
Title: Re: james and bridget o neill
Post by: mick123 on Tuesday 12 October 10 20:22 BST (UK)
Thornaby and Lackenby are in Cleveland in the north east of england.
I have the wedding certificate of James and Bridget. I'm trying to find the birth place and
family of my great grand father in Ireland. From the wedding certificate I know his fathers name is Charles and his occupation is a farmer. From census records I found that James had a brother Arthur.
Title: Re: james and bridget o neill
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 12 October 10 20:24 BST (UK)
What's listed as James' residence on the marriage certificate. To find church records (if they exist) you'll need a location in Ireland.
Title: Re: james and bridget o neill
Post by: mick123 on Tuesday 12 October 10 20:45 BST (UK)
James and Bridget(Devlin) were married 2.10.1873 at the roman catholic chapel of Dunamore in the district of Pomeroy, Cookstown, Co Tyrone.
James occupation is a farmer. His residence is Tullyreavey.
Bridget's residence is Keenaghan.
Both are listed as " Full age".
Witnesses to the marriage were Henry Lennon and Sarah Hadden.
Title: Re: james and bridget o neill
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 12 October 10 23:13 BST (UK)
There's lots of information in the Resource threads at the top of this forum and here's a link posted there for R.C. records- think it might be listed as Donaghmore. If so, the records look quite promising. Not sure where you are but since PRONI's closed until April the microfilm copies of church records are at Creggagh Library (see www.proni.gov.uk), National Library in Dublin looks to have a copy and also LDS Library (check with your local branch for ordering).
www.from-ireland.net/tyr/tyrindexrc.htm
Title: Re: james and bridget o neill
Post by: mick123 on Friday 15 October 10 10:15 BST (UK)
thanks for the information but i dint no what to do with it .I'm from the middles brough area of the
north-east of england .i have yust got a computer and i find it very hard to use.
all the information i have found is from church records that i found at the archives in middlesbrough
when it comes to finding information about the family in Ireland i have hit a blank wall .
my dad and all his brothers and sisters have passed away so there is no family to talk to about there
grand parents
i would be grateful if you could help me .
one step at a time
Title: o neill family
Post by: mick123 on Saturday 16 October 10 10:45 BST (UK)
can any one help im trying to find my great grand fathers family in Ireland.his name is James o neill
he married bridget devlin in pomeroy on the 2-10-1873 .
then came over to england and had his first two children elizabeth/bridget in thornaby (stockton) then moved
to grangetown and worked in the iron works and had a further 7 children matilda/mary/james/catherine/charles thomas/JOHN ARTHUR GRAND FATHER/ joseph .
he died at the age of 50 in 1904 due to a accident at the iron works . grangetown is in the north-east of england
between middlesbrough and redcar
his fathers name was arthur who was a farmer (found on wedding cert)
he also had a brother also called arthur ( 1891 census age 38 97 bessmer st grangetown )
from wedding cert James profession was also a farmer
i have hit a brick wall trying to find anything about the Irish side of my family
but i hope with the help of Rootschat.Com somebody can help me
Title: Re: o neill family
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 16 October 10 11:08 BST (UK)
No need to start another topic looking for the same information so I've merged your latest post with the existing thread.

There's an Arthur O'Neill in Pomeroy at the time of the 1901 census-born c1833 so possible old enough to be your James' father Arthur- Ellen might be 2nd wife?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Pomeroy/Pomeroy_Town/1731371
Title: Bad handwriting
Post by: sharon123 on Wednesday 20 October 10 14:41 BST (UK)
hi there wonder if anyone can help me i have just received a marriage certificate for JAMES O'NEILL  and  BRIDGET  DEVLIN they were married in Pomeroy Catholic Church in Cookstown. The certificate tells me that james father was ARTHUR O'NEILL a farmer of TULLYREDNEY???? dont know if thats right as the writing is really bad and bridgets father was also a farmer CHARLES DEVLIN of KANAGHAN???? I am struggling as i cant find either of these places or even know if its the correct spelling, thought once i got this certificate i would be able to crack my irish roots but not do i am now as confused as i was before.
any help would be really appreciated.
Thanking you in advance
sharon
Title: Re: o neill family
Post by: sharon123 on Wednesday 20 October 10 14:47 BST (UK)
hello mick123
i have just posted something on the wall for the marriage certificate of james o'neill and bridget devlin, my husband is an o'neill from the same ancesters, which child of james and bridget do you come down?
sharon
Title: Re: o neill family
Post by: sharon123 on Wednesday 20 October 10 15:01 BST (UK)
The more i look at your listing the more i cant believe it, i have been doing my family tree for years but only started on the o'neills about 3 years ago and what i problem i had tracking them, i have only just received the same marriage certificate as you this morning and my log in name on rootschat is sharon123, i find that all very strange.
my father in law is now 73 and i am trying to find things out for him as he has never known anything about the o'neills, his father was killed when he was very young so i suppose you lose all the old stories you would have been told by your parents, it would be nice to swop information and also for you to talk to my father in law as he would be so pleased to find that he has some family out there.
sharon
Title: Re: o neill family
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 20 October 10 16:38 BST (UK)
hi there wonder if anyone can help me i have just received a marriage certificate for JAMES O'NEILL  and  BRIDGET  DEVLIN they were married in Pomeroy Catholic Church in Cookstown. The certificate tells me that james father was ARTHUR O'NEILL a farmer of TULLYREDNEY???? dont know if thats right as the writing is really bad and bridgets father was also a farmer CHARLES DEVLIN of KANAGHAN???? I am struggling as i cant find either of these places or even know if its the correct spelling, thought once i got this certificate i would be able to crack my irish roots but not do i am now as confused as i was before.
any help would be really appreciated.
Thanking you in advance
sharon

No need to start a new topic- see www.thecore.com/seanruad to find townlands in Oreland. Pomeroy is in Desertcreat civil parish and there's a Tullyreavy in the same parish but difficult to be sure without seeing the record.
You are allowed to post a small portion for deciphering purposes (not the whole certificate).
Title: Re: o neill family
Post by: mick123 on Thursday 21 October 10 22:17 BST (UK)
hello sharon 123
im so glad that there is somebody out there looking for the family of james and bridget o neill.
my side of the family starts from my grand-father JOHN ARTHUR son of james and bridget and brother of JAMES
JOHN ARTHUR was born in grangetown in 1888 and married ALICE MULLIGAN at st marys church 17-5-1918
they had 8 children JAMES-BRIDGET-JOSEPH-JOHN-MARTHA-PETER-BRIAN-MARY my father was john who passed
away in 2000 the only one remaining out of the 8 is my aunty mary .
I HAVE THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE OF JAMES AND MARY ANN FINN 27-1-1906 ST MARYS CHURCH GRANGETOWN
in 1911 there were living in southbank at 18 upper graham st with 3 sons JAMES-THOMAS-JOSEPH also living
with them CHARLOTTE FINN (MOTHER-IN-LAW) SARAH E FINN (SISTER-IN-LAW) and a JOSEPH FINN AGE 3
going back to james and bridgets family
elizabeth married a michael daley 26-5-1900
bridget married a james darrock 18-8-1894
sarah married a michael mcgarity 22-7-1899
matilda married a francis morris 21-12-1898
mary married a patrick james rodgers 13-6-1914
catherine married a james donaghey 13-10-1916
joseph married a sarah elizabeth mclhatton 31-12-1916   i hope this helps mick
Title: Re: o neill family
Post by: sharon123 on Friday 22 October 10 09:01 BST (UK)
hi mick
thank you for all that information, my line comes down from james who married mary ann finn, they also had a son john born in 1915 and died in the war in the merchant navy, he had 3 sons and one of the sons john is my father in law. i bet mary has been a bit of a help to you, i have found it hard as he knew nothing about his family andi had to work totally blind, he didnt know his grandparents at all only his mothers side who was isabella mccluskey.
have had a bit of luck since i got the marriage certificate from ireland, have found that james father arthur married a second time and had a whole new family and that james mother was alice stuart, he is on the 1911 census in ireland and also bridgets father charles is on the 1901 census in ireland aged 80 living with his son john and his family. are you on Genes Reunited as i have all my tree on there, if you give me your email address it will be easier to correspond.
sharon
Title: Re: o neill family
Post by: john_finn on Friday 18 July 25 19:34 BST (UK)

I HAVE THE MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE OF JAMES AND MARY ANN FINN 27-1-1906 ST MARYS CHURCH GRANGETOWN
in 1911 there were living in southbank at 18 upper graham st with 3 sons JAMES-THOMAS-JOSEPH also living
with them CHARLOTTE FINN (MOTHER-IN-LAW) SARAH E FINN (SISTER-IN-LAW) and a JOSEPH FINN AGE 3

Charlotte Finn was my great grandmother. Mary Ann was my grandfather’s youngest sister.