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Looking for any possible leads on a Margaret Stokoe bn around 1767 to a Thomas Stokoe. This is what I know:
She married George Burdis at Hexham on 4th August 1792 and they had seven children. On most of their christening records she is listed as otp of Warden. On one of her daughters records it lists this "3rd dau of George, cartwright nop Allendale by his wife Margaret Stokoe dau to Thomas Stokoe nobl" so this is how I know her fathers details. She died 16 Feb 1848 and I worked out her rough dob from her date of death.
Unfortunately Warden parish records available at the Family Search Pilot start in 1769 and she isn't listed, but she may not have been born there anyway.
Does "nobl" by her fathers name in the above record just indicate Northumberland? Anyone run across this family in their searching?
Thanks,
Brenda
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Hi Brenda,
The nobl shouldn't just indicate Northumberland, it should give his parish - as in native of ..... but I cant think what bl would be used to indicate.
I'm guessing that this baptism was between 1799 and 1813 and the reason for the extra detail was down to the then Bishop of Durham, Shute Barrington, who insisted on additional genealogical detail. Sadly 1813 saw the introduction of standardised records so it was no longer possible but those few years can be very useful.
Are there any other children baptised within this period where the information might be clearer?
Christine
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Hi Christine
Most of the children were baptised in Hexham and the BT's online don't start early enough, the others were battised in Haydon Br/Warden, Nbl, Hunstanworth, DUR and Usworth DUR and the only other info is that the mother was a native of Warden, apart from the one daughter that gave a bit more info. I'll have another look though.
Thanks
Brenda
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OK, I've had another look at the online records and I think nobl is actually 'native of blank"! Which is a great help! The other children who have extra info with them just say Margaret Stokoe is a native of Warden, which covers Haydon Bridge, with the exception of Betty who has the additional info of Margaret's father.
There's a user entered pedigree resource file on the IGI that has correct marriage and death/burial details and lists Margaret's chr as 24 September 1770 in Hayden Bridge. Problem is, the Family Search BT's for Hayden Bridge start in 1769 and there is no Margaret Stokoe chr in them from 1769-1775. I can't check the originals to see if she was missed out of the BT's.
Her age at death puts her birth year at 1767, just before the records available on line, bit I realize that that info is only as good as whoever supplied it for the death cert.
Thanks,
Brenda
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Several families named Stokoe in Hayden Bridge. The only Margaret d/o Thomas I found was baptised 9 Dec 1756 d/o Thomas and Hannah of Chapel Hill.
Janis
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i have stokoes in my tree in 1851 at corbridge mill i have thomas stokoe married to mary ?
children
henry
george
thomas
elizabeth m
jane
ann
his wife appears to have died in 1851 and he married his servant jane thorburn let me know if this is connected in anyway
alison
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Several families named Stokoe in Hayden Bridge. The only Margaret d/o Thomas I found was baptised 9 Dec 1756 d/o Thomas and Hannah of Chapel Hill.
Janis
Hello Janis
Thanks for that. I don't suppose there was a Margaret baptised to a William Stokoe between 1765 and 1770ish was there? A contact I have insists her father was William not Thomas but has no proof for it!
Hello Alison
Unfortunately Margaret and her father are my only two Stokoes at the moment as I can't get a handle on them and any other siblings she might have had.
Thanks all,
Brenda
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Baptisms Hayden Chapel
16 Jan 1763 William Stokoe son of Thomas of Rattan Raw
7 Apr 1765 John Stokoe son of Thomas of Rattan Raw
2 Jan 1863 William Stokoe son of Nicholas of Rattan Raw
25 Aug 1765 John Stokoe son of Nicholas of Rattan Raw
7 Feb 1768 Elizabeth Stokoe daur of Nicholas of Rattan Raw
2 Oct 1774 Elizabeth Stokoe daur of William of Rattan Raw
So at least there was a William in the area having children.
Janis
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Just wee snippets to add to Janis's Haydon baptisms of Stokoes....
For old maps showing Rattenraw/Ratten Raw, just west of Hayden Bridge town see http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/007445FS.htm
http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006216FS.htm
There is also a marriage of a John Stoke in Haydon parsih church 1807 at
http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/008146.htm
Michael
Dundee
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Those Stokoes were in that parish a long time--I just wrote about 20 years worth but there were a whole lot more before those times. They seemed to move around together.
Janis
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Hi,
Not sure if they're connected to your STOKOEs but these are the Northumberland STOKOEs that I've got:
James STOKOE (b about 1810 Simonburn) married Elizabeth ? (b about 1805 Warden)
and their son Robert STOKOE (bap 17 May 1835 Warden) married Elizabeth FERGUSON (bap 28 Apr 1833 Gateshead)
I then follow the family through to Durham where they connect in to my HALL family.
Tim
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Hello All
Janis, thanks so much for the extra baptism info, and sorry I haven't had time to pop back on here to say thanks! I've been poking about the records myself, both the extracted batches for the area and the Family Search Pilot and I've come to the same conclusion as you.... there were a few of them around and they were most likely related! I found these entries, some of the burials might gel with some of the births you found:
Newbrough (Warden)
Chr Nov 3rd 1771 Nicholas son of William Stoker of Warden P3
Hayden Bridge
Bur Mar 15th 1770 William son of Thomas Stokoe of Whittoes Hill P3
Bur Dec 29th 1770 John son of Thomas Stokoe of Whittoes Hill P6
Bur 28 May 1774 Thomas Stokoe of Threepwood P10
Bur Dec 8 1774 Elizabeth wife of John Stokoe of Hayden Bridge P10
Warden
Chr 16 Oct 1774 Elizabeth dau of William Stokoe of Rattonraw? P11
Chr 15 Oct 1775 John illegitimate child of John Stokoe of West Boat in Hexham Parish born at Woodshields P13
Hi Tim - It's possible our Stokoes are connected but I'm having trouble getting any concrete info on who my lot might be! If I find out more info I'll let you know!
Regards,
Brenda
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James STOKOE (b about 1810 Simonburn) married Elizabeth ? (b about 1805 Warden)
There's the marriage of a James Stokoe and Elizabeth Parker at Warden on 19th January 1835, could be your lot, IGI Extracted Batch is M004452.
Regards
Brenda
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Hi Brenda,
Yes that's pretty definately my lot! James and Elizabeth's grandson had a middle name of Parker.
I keep on forgeting about IGI.
Thanks for that.
Tim
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Hi Brenda,
Yes that's pretty definately my lot! James and Elizabeth's grandson had a middle name of Parker.
I keep on forgeting about IGI.
Thanks for that.
Tim
Tim,
Try this site too, (https://beta.familysearch.org/s/image/show#uri=http%3A//pilot.familysearch.org/records/waypoint/313623&hash=MPAfKvgWGXfZ5STyuqUCQxOVNk8%253D) part of the IGI site, they have the Bishops Transcripts for Durham & Northumberland, Simonburn is quite well represented, you might find your James.
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I'm also looking for connections to Stokoes. My 3 x g grandfather was James Stokoe of Wellhope, Allendale (b. abt 1785) and his son, John b.22.11.1813 in Rockhouse, Haltwhistle died at Black Cleugh, Allendale on 12.12.1860. He was married to Ann Nattrass and when widowed married Elizabeth Dixon. John and Elizabeth had 9 children, one of whom was my g.grandfather, Thomas b.4.9.1855. On the 1881 census, Elizabeth is living with son, Thomas, a railway signalman, at Pandon, Haydon. My aunt, now nearly 90, confirms the family originates in the Haydon Bridge area.
Anyone connected or knows who James Stokoe of Allendale was married to? Her first name appears to be Isabella. James had at least 3 sons, James, John and Edward and a daughter, Isabella.
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hi all
i have a henry stokoe married to a mary baron they married in 1925 in hexham
mary's mother was jane baron (nee howd) and her father was walter baron
mary stokoe (nee baron ) and henry had 2 children that we know of
iris stokoe and fred stokoe we think in prudhoe
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Hello my name is David Stokoe, My GR GR GR Grandparents immigrated to the United States in 1852 from England, my GR GR GR Grandfathers name was James (JAS) Stokoe born 1813, he married Ann Elizabeth Herd in 1835. The 1851 Census shows him living in Durham with wife Ann, sons James b.1835, John b. 1837, Hanny (Henry)b. 1848, daughters Jane b. 1845, Ann Elizab, & Treza b. 1850. I do not have much info beyond that. The story goes that they came to the U.S. AND MOVED TO Farmington Illinois and stayed with James sister & brother in-law (I have no clue as to who his sister was) I seem to have hit a roadblock in England, dates never seem to match. I am an over the road trucker in the U.S. gone 2-3 weeks at a time no access to a computer so it may take time to respond to any replies. Thanks, David
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1841 census
HO107/313/11 folio 27 page 30
Coxhoe
James Stoke(sic), 25, Joiner, Y
Ann Stoke, 25, N
James Stoke, 6, N
John Stoke, 4, N
Jane Stoke, 2, N
Ages rounded down also Y--born in Co. Durham, N-not born in Co. Durham
1851 census
HO107/2392 folio 358 page 37
Haswell, South Hetton
James Stokoe, Head, Mar, 37, Enginewright, Durham Shincliffe
Ann Stokoe, Wife, Mar 36, Yorkshire Skipton
James Stokoe, Son, Unm, 16, Coal Miner, Yorkshire Skipton
John Stokeo, Son, 14, Scholar, Yorkshire Skipton
Jane Stokoe, Daur, 12, Yorkshire Skipton
Ann Elizabeth Stokoe, daur, 6, Scholar, Durham Cornforth
Henry Stokoe, Son, 3, Durham Coxhoe
Treza Stokoe, Daur, 1, Durham South Hetton
Baptisms:
Shincliffe St. Mary the Virgin, James Stokoe bapt 27 Dec 1835, born 6 Mar[1835] Skipton Yorkshire to James and Ann Stokoe, joiner, received into church
South Hetton Holy Trinity baptisms: Ann Elizabeth and Henry baptised 13 Sept 1848 children of James and Ann Stokoe, Joiner
12 Dec 1849 Theresa Stokoe daur of James and Ann Stokoe
Kelloe St. Helen: Richard Stokoe of Coxhoe, Oxclose, baptised 26 Aug 1843 4th son of James Stokoe, Joiner and wife Ann Hird. (died 1843 Cornforth Mill)
I couldn't find a baptism of James, sr, in Shincliffe or Durham St. Oswald but I will look around to adjoining parishes.
Jas is the abbreviation for James
You might do better taking your question to the Durham board as that was where your family was from.
You need a laptop and do lunch in McD's--free WiFi
Janis
not far in Wisconsin
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hi i have a
john stokoe born 1780 in hexham(he was a carter)
m
ann smith born 1785 in hexham
they had(that i know of now)
ann born 1819 in whitly by hexham?
margaret born 1821
hannah stokoe 1830 born hexham she married jacob johnson
im decended from hannah and jacob.
there does seem to of been a lot of the family around
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Janis, thank you for the 1841 census info, and the info on Robert Stokoe i did not know of him. This is an obit from Canton Illinois of Jane Stokoe Brown, it tells the story of the familys migration to Farmington Illinois.
REF: Canton Daily Ledger, Saturday Sept. 2, 1933 Pg-1
DEATH TAKES OLD CANTON RESIDENT
Canton lost one of its oldest residents yesterday afternoon with the death at 1 o'clock of Mrs. Jane Brown, 94 who died at her home 656 East Elm St., where she had lived for the past 60 years. Death was attributed to complications arising from old age. She was ill two weeks.
The last of a family of 12 children, Mrs. Brown also out lived her husband and their 5 children. She is survived by a grandson, Harry of California, and by several nephews and a niece in Farmington.
On July 22, 1880, she was among those who heard Fulton County's first pipe organ dedicated in the Congregrational Church. Mrs. Brown joined the Baptist church 60 years ago, was a member of the Dorcas class, and attended services regulary until 5 years ago.
Mrs. Brown was the third of 12 children, was born March 14, 1839 in Yorkshire, England. Her mother, the youngest in a family of 16 children, was Miss Anne Elizabeth Herd, before her marriage to James Stokoe.
Trip on the Canal Boat
In the fall of 1852, Mr and Mrs. Stokoe, their daughter Jane and six younger brothers and sisters sailed from South Eaton, England, to New York City. Their sailing vessel made the crossing in 21 days, a record at that time. Arriving in New York in October, the family later went to Chicago and boarded a canal boat for Peoria. At Peoria, a covered wagon and horses were purchased for the laborious overland journey to Farmington, the home of Mr. Stokoes sister and brother-in-law.
On June 24, 1864, in Farmington, the marriage of Jane Stokoe and James W. Brown was solemnized. In the following February the couple came to Canton. For several years Mr. Brown was employed at the P&O shop, then only a small structure covering part of one block. He died in 1874, leaving her with 5 children.
Funeral services will be held at 2 o'clock Monday afternoon at the Murphy Memorial Home, with the Dr. E. A. Gilmore in charge. Burial will be in Greenwood Cemetery. friends may call at Murphy's.
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Dwalin
Whitley Chapel to St. Helen:
Ann Stokoe baptised 7 Feb 1819 d/o John and Ann
Margaret Stokoe baptised 29 Jul 1821 d/o John and Ann
Hannah Stokoe baptised 29 Mar 1829 d/o John and Hannah (probably Ann)
I didn't see any more nor find any burials of children from 1821 to 1829. It is a rather large gap between kids.
Janis
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Hi
I am also looking for Stokes of Hexham.
Especially William Stokoe & Hannah Harrison who m 1740 in Hexham.
Their children
James of Ferryhill b 1745, Thomas b 1758 b Corbridge, Hannah b 1759, Ralph b 1762, Robert and Wm b 1767
Julienne
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Hi Brenda,
Margaret J Stokoe was my great great great great grandmother. I have a little bit of info on her if you are still interested.
She was from Hexham, Northumberland, England. Her father was William Stokoe. She married George Burdess. They had Anthony Burdess who married Hannah Davison. They had a son George Burdess. Not sure who George married but he went on to have a son Anthony who married Mary Logan from Scotland. They changed Burdess to Bourdess and moved to Pennsylvania. Are you kin?
Sarah
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Hello All-
Firstly, what a lot of Stokoes there are around the Hexham area!! If we can all get back early enough we'll likely find we're all related to each other. This definitely seems to be a locative surname at one point in time.
Sarah - George Burdess and Margaret Stokoe are my direct ancestors through their son George born in 1797. But we do have differences in our info:
Margaret Stokoe's father is listed as Thomas Stokoe on the christening record of her daughter Elizabeth (Betty) in 1809. I have another contact who insists her father is William but has no proof, do you have any? I'd love to know for sure.
I have Anthony Burdess listed as marrying Dorothy Nesham in Houghton le Spring on 15 Feb 1819. Interestingly one of the witnesses was a William Davison. Anthony started out as a coal miner, but by the 1861 census was a grocer and beer seller then a licensed victualler. Does this part match with what you have? I also don't have a son called George listed for them.
I do have other Burdess children emigrating to the US, initially to Pennsylvania (did they join your family there?) before settling in Ohio.
I'm very, very interested to find out more and swap info with you, I'll send you a pm with my email address.
Regards,
Brenda
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Some information in one of my antique books on Northumberland.
'Northumberland its history, its features and its people' author Rev. James Christie published 1893.
On pg 147 of the book under the heading "Sally The Mugger" Christie mentions one James Stokoe who was born near Capheaton and Stokoe is described as a typical Northumbrian both in physique and utterance.
Stokoe also gave Christie some information about the pitmen of the area. James said;
"When I was a young man I used to go mowing in summer from one place to another, and on one occasion I stayed with an old woman at Greenside whose husband was a pitman."
Later he said, "I have seen the pitmen coming home from the toon (Newcastle) in their double horse carriages on Saturday nights" and this reference was dated to the 70s, by which that will have meant the 1870s.
Stokoe surname info;
http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Stokoe
http://www.houseofnames.com/stokoe-family-crest
Philip
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I collect and offer for sale Victorian/Edwardian memorabilia and have come across a postcard which may be of value to you in your research;
The postcard belongs to Miss Violet Stokoe, born around 1898.
The postcard can be viewed at http://www.theheritagemine.com/d.aspx/$item-details/Miss-Violet-Stokoe?itemID=94
I have researched the postcard and found the following connections which, I believe, may be associated with your ancestor.
The postcard was addressed to:
Miss Violet Stokoe
Woodhead farm
Hedley
Stocksfield-on-Tyne
Northumberland
UK
My research revealed the following information;
Card in poor condition. Tear to one side. Stamp removed.
In the 1901 census Edward Stokoe (46, Traction Engine driver) was living in Village Street Hedley with wife Martha(30) and children Violet, 4 and Thomas, 3 weeks old.
1911 Census:
1911 census details removed
Hope this helps.
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I own the 1841 census of Hexham if somewone would like something looked up
Julienne