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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Durham => England => Durham Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Claire_H on Thursday 14 October 10 20:56 BST (UK)
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Hi,
I wondered if somebody would be able to look up any information related to my great grandfather William Hedley as I have hit a brick wall.
I know that he married Kathleen T Morley at St Cuthbert's Church in Billingham in December 1925
He died on 15th February 1963 and was born on 14th February. He was about 64 when he died and was an only child and his mother later remarried and her surname was Smith
I think he was born in Newcastle, but I can't confirm that 100%
Any help at all would be appreciated
Best regards
CLaire
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Hi
This is proving difficult as there are quite a few children called William Hedley in that area in 1901. Are we looking for just him and his mother, or is there a father? What does it say on the marriage certificate?
Jan
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Thanks for the reply. Another RC member found this source for the marriage:
Marriages Dec ¼ 1925 William Hedley and Kathleen T Morley Stockton 10a 101
I don't have a certificate of the marriage at the moment but will try and obtain one.
I remember my grandfather talking a lot about Billingham/Haverton Hill and Cowpen Bewley when I was younger, but i doubt this helps much!
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With out further clues this is hard ,
1901 Newcastle ,St Phillips Westgate,
Elizabeth Hedley ,states married aged 23 born Newcastle,
William aged 3,
Jane aged 1,
living next to the Smith family do you know who she married,
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I just spoke to my Gran, who has further confused matters. She says that his ashes are buried alongside his parents at St Cuthberts Church in Billingham.
She doesn't know the first names of the parents. This is where it gets confusing as she says that William's half sister was called Margaret L Smith. She died in Devon in 2003 and was born in 1916. She was affectionately called Auntie Peggy. I found her birth certificate and it says her mother's maiden name was McCaw.
Margaret was the half sister of William, and they shared a mother. However, with such a big gap between ages (b1899 and b1916), I can't possibly see how they are actually related, unless William's father died at quite a young age, between 1899 and 1916.
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Don't know if this helps but there is this possible McGaw - Hedley marriage (NB its for a Margaret as the potential mother and George as the potential father)
Marriages Sep 1898
Down Louisa Tynemouth 10b 517
HEDLEY George Tynemouth 10b 517 <<<<<<<<<<
Lashley James Tynemouth 10b 517
McGaw Margaret Tynemouth 10b 517 <<<<<<<<<
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Mary Hedly married Joseph Smith ,June 1908 Newcastle upon Tyne ,
It may be the one she was living next door to in 1901,
Margaret was born in Tynemouth June 1916
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Possible death Newcastle for George William Hedley March 1900 aged 39 years
George Hedley Tynemouth September 1900 aged 40,
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Don't know if this helps but there is this possible McGaw - Hedley marriage (NB its for a Margaret as the potential mother and George as the potential father)
Marriages Sep 1898
Down Louisa Tynemouth 10b 517
HEDLEY George Tynemouth 10b 517 <<<<<<<<<<
Lashley James Tynemouth 10b 517
McGaw Margaret Tynemouth 10b 517 <<<<<<<<<
From 1901 census this seems to confrim that James married Louisa, and therefore George married Margaret
Name: James Lashley
Spouse: Louisa Lashley
Birth: abt 1875 - Seaton Delavel, Northumberland, England
Residence: 1901 - Newsham Freeholds, Cowpen, Northumberland, England
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I think this is more likely to be the Hedley-Smith marriage
Marriages Jun 1914
Hedley Margaret Smith Tynemouth 10b 526
Smith William B Hedley Tynemouth 10b 526
NB
1. its for Margaret Hedley so likely the same one who married George Hedley
2. Its in 1914 just before the birth of young Margaret in 1916 so explains why no other children
3. Mother and daughter then share the name Margaret
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Thank you everybody this is absolutely wonderful!
So this much be George Hedley who was born in Tynemouth in 1860 and died 1900, which would explain everything.
I looked at the 1861 census and the 1871 census and the 1871 census appears more fitting.
He doesn't seem to appear on the 1861 census. There are many of them but all over Northumberland.
I wondered if you could tell me the best way to find this out as people here seem to be better at searching than I am. This below could be him but it is hard to say exactly
1871 England Census
about George Hedley
Name: George Hedley
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Mary Ann Hedley
Gender: Male
Where born: North Shields, Northumberland, England
Civil parish: North Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: Low Town
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: North Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 16
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Ann Hedley 46
Ann Maria Hedley 15
George Hedley 11
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Its down to elimination,
Rootschatter senior all ways advised me to check birth, baptism, census every thing ,as it is so easy to just claim a family and go down the wrong path ,
as you have the census details you need to go onto the baptisms for Tynemouth and double check the details,they some times give extra details ,
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I wondered if you could tell me the best way (forward)
I think you need to proceed with caution as Hedley is quite a common name and so easy to get the families mixed up. Also Finding the right Margaret McGaw (McCaw) might not be obvious. Altthough there is one born in 1862 in Tynemouth that would make her quite old to have young Margaret in 1916 (although not impossible)
Therefore I would start by getting the 1898 marriage certificate to see what it says about their ages and their parents names and occupations.
I agree with Radcliffe that you need to check as much as possible to ensure you get the right people
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I finally got the certificate and it reads:
1898 District of Tynemouth
Married 27th August 1898
George Hedley: Father of groom is George Hedley age 25, Bath Street Walker, profession Iron Ship Rivetter,, father George Hedley deceased (brick yard labourer)
Margaret McGaw, 23 years, Bath Street Walker, father Thomas McGaw (iron ship driller)
Witnessed were James and Annie Virtue.
The problem now is that there are so many George Hedley's, however his father must have died before the wedding took place. I found a George Hedley, who was very old, and was a tile maker at 6 Hunters Tile Sheds in Longebenton area in 1861, who had a child called George, who also was born about 1873, but I don't know if it's the same one. George Snr died in July 1898, which could have spurred on a wedding the month later perhaps?
if anybody has any suggestions, as always would be greatly appreciated :)
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1901 census Fortress Street Walker ,
James Virtue a shipwright born Falloden,aged 33
Ann aged 32 born Walker,
Elizabeth A, ,, aged 9
Dorothy H, ,, aged 6
Margaret J, ,, aged 4,
RG13/4806